firewire iBot & WebCamDV webcams w/ XP
From: Leroy (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 11/26/04
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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:29:16 -0800
MORE FROM THE TRENCHES:
I have found a way to resolve the following "However, if
I try to set the DV camera up as a Webcam only, I get the
error message: "You cannot change our camera settings
because either your camera is not plugged in to your
computer or you are using it in a video conversation or
with another program." I assume the issue is the later,
XP thinks it is use with another program. The camera is
on and listed as a device by XP Pro -- if I double click
on the icon in My Computer I see a live video image. The
DV camera icon is listed in My Computer as "AVC Compliant
DV Device" next to an icon for my scanner." (see below)
I found that I must revisit the tray icon, right click on
it and reselect "Microsoft DV Camera and VCR" if I change
between video conferencing wizard setup and webcam
settings in MSN Messenger. If I remember to do that then
each function works properly. (It does randomly crash,
requiring a reboot of the system to use the driver again.)
However, since there is no tray icon associated with the
iBOT firewire webcam, I can not switch between running
the wizard for video conferencing and webcam setting in
MSN Messenger. If I set the iBOT for video conferencing,
it is unstable and crashes. The iBot as a webcam is
stable in MSN Messenger v. 6.2.
Hope this helps.
>-----Original Message-----
>UPDATE from the trenches. You must let the Messenger
6.2
>audio/video wizard run for a very long time [it seems
>like the computer has crashed] before it will recognize
>the iBOT. Be VERY patient, it does eventually see the
>iBOT -- left for dinner. However, Messenger
>simultaniously disables the WEBCAM settings page, see
>below.
>
>My firewire iBOT on my second XP Pro computer is now
>acting the same way as WebCam DV described below - see
>below dialogue [there is no video capture card in the
>second computer].
>
>MSN Messenger 6.2 audio/video wizard in XP finally
>recognized the firewire iBOT for video conferencing.
>However, now that the audio/video wizard has accepted
the
>firewire iBOT as the video source, the webcam settings
>page has the same error message as WebCamDV [see
>discussion below]: "You cannot change our camera
>settings because either your camera is not plugged in to
>your computer or you are using it in a video
conversation
>or with another program." This must be an undocumented
>XP "feature" or Messenger "feature.".
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>I have version 2.1 of WebCamDV and the Preview utility
>shows a video stream if I select the "Microsoft DV
Camera
>and VCR" with the taskbar icon.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>http://www.orangeware.com/endusers/webcamdvfaq.html
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>I am having mixed results.
>
>I am still having issues using the DV camera as a Webcam
>in MSN 6.2 with WebCamDV. I have UPnP enabled in the
>Linksys router and in XP Pro with SP2, Norton Antivirus
>2005 is set to autoconfigure MSN Messenger each time it
>connects. I can videoconference on my LAN with another
>XP Pro machine (with a firewire iBOT Webcam -- mentioned
>above) and on the Internet with other XP computers just
>fine.
>
>I just cannot use the DV camera as a "Webcam" in
>Messenger.
>
>My DV camera is connected via Firewire. I also have a
>Leadtek TV2000 XP Deluxe video capture card installed on
>this machine. To get WebCamDV to work with the camera,
I
>have selected "Microsoft DV Camera and VCR" Orangeware
>suggests in its FAQs when using an ATI capture card. If
>I run the Messenger audio/video wizard and select
>the "WebCamDV" device, I get a static logo. But, if I
>select "AVC Compliant DV Device," the DV camera works
>just fine for video conferencing.
>
>However, if I try to set the DV camera up as a "Webcam"
>only in Messenger, I get the error message: "You cannot
>change our camera settings because either your camera is
>not plugged in to your computer or you are using it in a
>video conversation or with another program." [See iBOT
>discussion above.] The camera is on and listed as a
>device by XP Pro in My Computer -- if I double click on
>the icon in My Computer I see a live video image. The
DV
>camera icon is listed in My Computer as "AVC Compliant
DV
>Device" next to an icon for my scanner.
>
>I went into the registry and verified that myself and
>all "power users" had FULL rights to WebCamDV.
>
>-----
>
>http://www.orangeware.com/endusers/webcamdvfaq.html
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>
>Earlier post:
>
>>I saw this post and others but could not find an easy
>way
>>to reply. So I copied the below messages into my post.
>>I have two XP Pro computers.
>>
>>One with a firewire iBot in which the camera works fine
>as
>>a webcam but crashs the audio/video wizard for MSN
>>Messenger video conferencing. This matches other
>posts,
>>which claim if you try enough times it will finally
work
>>for video conferencing BUT I do not have that much
>>patience. (There is the chance that if you crash too
>many
>>times trying you might lose the registry, I have
before.)
>>
>>The other XP computer uses the the same company's
>WebCamDV
>>driver ($20 direct) for my firewire connected DV
>camera.
>>It is just the opposite with this one. The WebCam
>>settings page says the device is in use and does not
see
>>the camera. While the audio/video wizard for MSN
>>Messenger video conferencing does see the camera if I
>>select it under a generic video device name. It all
>seems
>>odd.
>>
>>Both cameras do produce a quality image in MSN
>Messenger.
>>I went with firewire to avoid the burden USB devices
put
>>on the CPU.
>>
>>Hope this is helpful.
>>
>
>
>
>>From: Jonathan Kay [MVP] (msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com)
>>Subject: Re: firewire connection webcam
>>View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
>>Original Format
>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.msn.messenger
>>Date: 2004-04-12 15:47:41 PST
>>
>>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>Actually it all depends on what driver the webcam is
>>using. In most cases however, the
>>primary answer is no.
>>
>>However, if you're using Windows XP, There are actually
>>two different video functions within
>>MSN Messenger 6.1. The first, the "Webcam" function,
>>which is tested by the "Web Camera
>>Settings" dialog, basically supports actual "Webcam"s
>>only. It does not support DV/firewire
>>cameras, digital cameras, or video card inputs. The
>>second, the "Video Conference" function
>>is tested by the Audio/Video Tuning Wizard, supports
>most
>>devices including DV cameras and
>>video card inputs and uses the same functionality as
>>Windows Messenger does.
>>
>>As such, assuming both you and your contact are using
>>Windows XP, to use a firewire camera,
>>you'll need to open up a conversation window, click the
>>Actions menu, and then use the 'Start
>>Video Conference' option.
>>
>>There are a few drivers that you can use to use the
>built-
>>in MSN Messenger "Webcam" function
>>with firewire camera. For example.
>>http://www.trackercam.com/DVdriver or WebCam DV:
>>http://www.orangemicro.com/webcamdv.html
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>
>.
>
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