Re: Correction

From: Old Nick (hell_at_downunder.invalid)
Date: 09/15/04 

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:31:03 +0200

Stephen,
I have an ADSL connection which polls my computer from time to time,
therefore I physically disconnected the link to conform with Ron's suggested
procedure (disconnecting the connection), anyway I had no problems when I
physically broke the connection. I gave that advice to Shirley who seemed
to be having problems deleting/un-installing her QoS.
Reference Shirley's quote
"I followed the instructions and got to the point of where
I was attempting to uncheck the Qos Packet and the only
options are to uninstall/install...even though it has a
check tick in it I cannot get the tick to come out. Is
it safe to uninstall Qos Packet or is it a necessary part
of the msn service?????"

As you have mentioned another post, ref.
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Popups.htm, if SP.2 supersedes this document
the it should be amended. Again I was only quoting from an authorised MS
Document. You say that "Windows Firewall automatically installed which
disables the questioned ports unless the user intervenes and allows the
ports". I cannot find it documented anywhere that UDP ports 135, 137, and
138; TCP ports 135, 139, and 445 137 are blocked by Sp.2. As you appear to
KNOW IT ALL perhaps you can enlighten me on where this information is
located?

Nick

"Stephen Harris" <Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uGXgA21mEHA.2764@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
> "Old Nick" <hell@downunder.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Oxva7I1mEHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Those links should read news:64c101c49372$233c84a0$a601280a@phx.gbl &
>> news:035a01c493d5$b637bdc0$a401280a@phx.gbl
>> Nick
>>
> I quote:
>
> "I highlighted QoS Packet
> scheduler as you instructed and hit uninstall. Window
> came up that said "You must disconnect all dial-up, VPN,
> and Incoming connections before this component can be
> removed". This time I left the window open and I just
> disconnected ATT, Bingo the QoS window stayed open and I
> was able to uninstall the component."
>
> SH: The ATT dial-up windows has two little blocks called
> Connect and Disconnect
> You Disconnect with a mouse click, not unplugging the telephone wire.
> Then in that same window in the lower right corner resides Properties.
> Clicking on Properties gets you to the General screen and QoS etc.
>
> This is not a suggestion to "... which suggested physically removing
> (unplugging)
> the connection to the ISP to enable removing QoS."
>
> It is accomplished by mouse clicks; but because mouse clicks are
> ultimately
> atomic changes, this does not qualify as physical removal or unplugging.
>
> This abuse of terminology is a far greater discrepancy than picking upon
> the
> omission to mention that ports that allow messenger service can be
> exploited
> even if you turn off messenger service to eliminate messenger service
> advertisements.
> What you stated was bluntly wrong, and striker just decided not to go into
> detail.
> Win xp SP2 comes with messenger service disabled and Windows Firewall
> automatically installed which disables the questioned ports unless the
> user
> intervenes and allows the ports. That is a choice, not automatically a bad
> decision.
> Whereas using some method other than mouse clicks such as physical removal
> of internal modem or unplugging the telephone to disconnect from the
> internet is a
> bad decision.
>
> Penny wise and Pound foolish,
> Stephen
>
>
>>
>> "Old Nick" <hell@downunder.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:Od2NiD1mEHA.3196@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> Jonathan,
>>> I was quoting from mailto:anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com &
>>> mailto:anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com below, when I un-installed my
>>> QoS I followed the advice given in that thread
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message
>>> news:umVmw40mEHA.3520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> That won't do anything...
>>>> ____________________________________________
>>>> Jonathan Kay
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
>>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>>>
>>>> "Old Nick" <hell@downunder.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:u6dfb0xmEHA.404@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Shirley,
>>>>> A few days ago I saw a post which suggested physically removing
>>>>> (unplugging) the connection to the ISP to enable removing QoS.
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>> "Shirley" <shirleysmith@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:076901c49b0a$42598dc0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I followed the instructions and got to the point of where
>>>>>> I was attempting to uncheck the Qos Packet and the only
>>>>>> options are to uninstall/install...even though it has a
>>>>>> check tick in it I cannot get the tick to come out. Is
>>>>>> it safe to uninstall Qos Packet or is it a necessary part
>>>>>> of the msn service????? Your help to date for this dummy
>>>>>> from down under is appreciated.
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>Greetings Shirley,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You and your contact might try turning off the QoS
>>>>>> Packet Scheduler. To do so, click Start,
>>>>>>>then All Programs, then Accessories, then
>>>>>> Communications, and then Network Connections.
>>>>>>>Right click your network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>> Properties. Uncheck the QoS Packet
>>>>>>>Scheduler, and try again.
>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004
>>>>>> Jonathan Kay.
>>>>>>>You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Shirley" <shirleysmith@smartchat.net.au> wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>news:1d8d01c49a3b$015a9c80$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>I can have a voice conversation but only hear
>>>>>>>> intemittently what is said to me...This has only
>>>>>> occurred
>>>>>>>> since the download of XP service pack 2....my friends
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> hear me, and I only hear the first word or two that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> say...can someone please help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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