Re: Messenger Service

From: P.Cyr (johndoe532004AThotmailDOTcom)
Date: 08/20/04 

Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:03:00 -0400

I don't see how you can debate this for as long as you implied (although an
exaggeration), we're dealing with facts.

-We should be using a firewall for security
-With a properly configured firewall, Messenger Service spam can't get
through
-Seeing Messenger Service spam is a sign that the user isn't using firewall
(or hasn't configured it properly)
-If they aren't using a firewall, they are at risk.

Is there anything above you don't agree with?

If not, then how can you argue that ignoring these warnings isn't just like
covering an infection with makeup?

BTW, in SP2, the firewall is on by default, and Messenger Service isn't the
only thing disabled. 

-- 
Paul Cyr
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"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message 
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> Hi,
>
> You can debate this till everyone's hands are long taken over by carpal 
> tunnel but the fact is, it's disabled in Service Pack 2.
> ___________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>
> "P.Cyr" <johndoe532004AThotmailDOTcom> wrote in message 
> news:ezHsxMkhEHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>I strongly disagree.  As another MVP (Bruce Chambers) puts it, this is a
>> "head-in-sand" approach.
>>
>> The user is not protecting themselves, and these Messenger Service spam
>> messages are the warning.
>>
>> How To Protect Yourself And Others On The Internet
>> http://davechalkconnected.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1802
>>
>> -- 
>> Paul Cyr
>>
>> -----
>>
>> The Debate Continues... www.xvsxp.com
>>
>> Protect Yourself and Others in 6 Simple Steps... 
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>>
>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message 
>> news:ebCX$0ghEHA.712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Greetings Daz,
>>>
>>> What you're seeing is the Messenger service built-in to Windows, *not* 
>>> Windows Messenger
>>> (which are two different things) which spammers are exploiting -- this 
>>> is not Microsoft, nor
>>> can Microsoft control them anymore then they can control spam to your 
>>> e-mail inbox.
>>>
>>> To get rid of these pop ups,  you'll need to disable the "Messenger 
>>> Service", click Start,
>>> then Run, enter "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down to "Messenger", 
>>> select it,
>>> right-click and then choose Properties.  Under startup type, choose 
>>> 'Disabled' and then
>>> choose the 'Stop' button. After the service is stopped, click OK. 
>>> Nothing in Windows or any
>>> real third-party applications should be effected by this.
>>> ____________________________________________
>>> Jonathan Kay
>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>> Associate Expert
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>>
>>> "Daz" <pluginbaby151@aol.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:8d3001c485e3$a5b9bca0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>I keep getting these pop-ups when i am on the internet.
>>>> They claim to be a messenger serviceand thatif i pay
>>>> somuch money they will stop. I know it is posible to stop
>>>> this from happening but i cant remember how. Can anyone
>>>> help me please?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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