Re: Slow Bootup is annoying

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Tom

Daave has already answered your question. The system is making excessive use
of the pagefile. The solution is increase RAM or reduce unwanted memory
usage.

Norton 360 is a known resource hog. However, you have another potential
cause, VS 2005/2008. In this case it is not the programme but the products
resulting. Research produced Ants Profiler:
http://www.red-gate.com/products/ANTS_Profiler/ANTS_Profiler_USD.pdf
and
http://blogs.msdn.com/mahuja/archive/2008/07/16/managed-debugging-and-inspecting-jitted-code-with-windbg.aspx

You could be creating memory leaks with VS 2005/2008. The justification for
programmes like Ants Profiler is the problems that users can create and a
need to to eliminate them.

Closing programmes does not release memory where there is a leak. Restarting
the computer does. Where there is a memory leak usage builds up during a
session. However, Norton 360 could obscure a memory leak, as like all
security programmes, it will be very active as the boot completes and
immediately after.

I suggest you need to look at what is loading during the boot process. Many
programmes assume the user wants them to load when booting when they are
often better loaded on demand later.

Many programmes are set to load on StartUp when they this is not
necessary. You should look within the programme to see if you can change
it so that they load on demand when needed. To identify what loads when
you boot use Autoruns (freeware from Microsoft).

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx

With Autoruns you can uncheck an item, which disables it from
starting,or you can right click an item and then delete it. If you
uncheck youcan recheck to re-enable the item. It is a much safer
approach than editing the Registry and better than using msconfig..
Another useful feature of the programme is that you can right click an
item and select Search Online to get information about the item
selected.

Memory usage is not the only area you should examine. Errors occurring
during the boot process can cause over long boot times.

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for
Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any more than 48
hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to Empty
your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also select Start, All
Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System
Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point. Run Disk
Defragmenter.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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tjdarth wrote:
Thanks Gerry, my Task Manager Performance (Commit) is as follows as
of 8:52pm. this evening
TOTAL: 1487048; LIMIT: 2521648; PEAK: 1523816;
Exactly what does this tell us?

Thanks again . . .
Tom J.
"Gerry" <gerry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Tom

Norton 360!

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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tjdarth wrote:
Thanks Leonard for your quick response. I kind of suspected the
security programs and am in the process of determining which appl.,
is geiving me the most bang for the buck. Strange, I have had no
problem out of any of these applications for the last 6 to 7 years,
but realize someone wants to be boss. As for my system I have an AMD
Athlon XP 2800+ 2.08Ghz w/1gb memory.
My next test is to remove each application one by one and see which
one of these culprits is actually causing me grief.
So if XP is not in 16-bit DOS mode when I choose my OS from the
start menu, then 32-bit has taken over at an earlier point in the
startup process? This is news to me.

Thanks again Leonard.
Tom J.


"Leonard Grey" <l.grey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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One big problem you have is that you are using multiple redundant
security programs (Norton 360, Zone Alarm, Spybot, "etc."). Not
only does this grab enormous amounts of system resources, it
compromises your security -- makes you less secure, not more.

You haven't told us anything about the age of your system.

If you want to find out what is using your system resources, open
Task Manager.

Malware will often slow a computer's performance.

BTW: Window XP does not start from DOS. Millenium Edition was the
last version of Windows that did.
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Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

tjdarth wrote:
For the past month almost, my system has been starting up at a
real OLD snails-pace. From the time that I login thpe overall
process takes about 30 mins. Way too long for the type of
software that I have in here. 1) Office 2007
2) VS 2005/2008
3) VS SQL 2005/2008
4) Norton 360
5) ZoneAlarm
6) SpyBot S&D 1.62; etc . . .

Is there some type of program that can log progra-name, starttime,
etc that can give a clue as to what is actually going on?
I realize this may be a tall order since my Win-XP SP3 environment
is staring from MS-DOS.

Thanks in advance if someone might know of a possible appl.

Tom J.


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