Re: Xpress Recovery2 - The saga continues

"Brian A." <bascon58@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Brian,
Please don't misunderstand my next question. I don't mean any
disrespect as I ask
in a most respectful way.
When it comes to this topic, do you know what you're talking about ?
I've had a couple
replies and frankly those replies have come from some with little or
no experiance re- XR2.

Just heard back from Gigabyte again.
Their response:
"The Unallocated space needs to be at least the same size as your
system partition."

If that is Gigabyte's official response, it is safe to assume it is
correct.

I believe they either mis-worded it in their reply or MM interpreted
it in another form.

No, it must to be at the least, the same size as the total data on
the
partition you're going to create the image for.

So, if I understand you,
If my OS + reg files + boot stuff + and all that other startup stuff
plus then my applications and every other damn thing else that gets
installed onto my C: system partition
comes to say 5Gb, then my unallocated space should be minimum 5Gb.
In which case I should make sure
that the unalllocated space I create is say, 10Gb to allow for
future backup/image expansion.

If you say Yes to this, then I would have to say that's incorrect.

All Brian is saying is what the Gigabyte tech is saying. Why do you
think it's incorrect?

I think not, I stated that the unallocated space needs to be at the
least, the same size or larger as ONLY the data written to the disk to
be imaged. Now either MM mis-worded the above or is still thinking in
the way of the techs statement. I think the 5 GB mentioned was not
intended to be the actual system partition size and was intended to be
the total size of all data written to the drive.

I've tried many ways to get XR2 installed and going.
An example/
I've tried a C: primary partition of 300Gb and an 'unallocated
space' of 100Gb

Unallocated *where*? On the destination drive? Or on the same
physical disk (source disk) that C: resides?

It doesn't matter where the unallocated space is as long as it's in
its own reserved Primary partition. Quoted from Gigabytes site, "For
the use of Xpress Recovery2, a primary partition must be reserved."

Now the only thing at that time on my C: drive was my OS + Mobo
drivers.
Adding those two together only comes to a few Gb's,,, maybe.
Now that 100Gb of 'unallocated space' should and is way, way big
enough, right?

Wrong. Remember that the tech stated that "The Unallocated space
needs to be at least the same size as your system partition." If your
C: partition is 300 GB, then 100 GB of unallocated space on the
destination drive is 200 GB too small. The unallocated space on the
destination drive must be at least 300 GB in order to use that
program. Of course, you may choose to run a different program that
doesn't have this requirement. Or you can use a third-party program
to resize your C: partition, shrinking it down to, say, 20 GB. If you
were to do this, then the 100 GB of unallocated space on the
destination drive would of course be more than sufficient.

Not correct unless you're going by what MM provided that the tech
stated, which BTW I read into differently due to what's stated on
Gigabytes site.
<quote>
Xpress Recovery2 will store the backup image file at the end of the
hard disk,so user must reserve enough unallocated hard drive partition
space in advance. (A minimum 4 GB is recommended but the actual space
is dependent on the size of the data to be backed up)
</quote>

Note the wording "the actual space is dependent on the size of the
data to be backed up".

Well I still get a message saying "Insufficient free HHD space to
create the image Error 403".

The message is accurate. You need at least 300 GB of unallocated
space on the destination HDD in order to accomplish what you are
describing.

Not correct, unless the partition to be imaged is 300 GB or less. If
in any way it was true and GBs of unused space were included in the
image, they might as well toss the app in the trash and stay away from
data backup developement.

If you want to make your life easier, don't use that program! Use
either Acronis True Image or DriveImageXML. When you image with those
programs, your destination hard drive doesn't need to have any
unallocated space at all. Merely save the image archive -- plain and
simple. Use compression and you won't need to use up such a large
portion of the hard drive.

According to Gigabyte, if you take them literally, the 'unallocated
space' in the above scenario should be
300Gb and not 100Gb's.

Yes.

Depends on which you believe is correct, the tech ot their site page.

In which case I might be able to reclaim some of the 'unallocatted
space' AFTER
it's made it's own partition.

What do you mean by reclaim? The remainder *will* be unallocated
space. If the destination hard drive is 500 GB and you don't have any
partitions on there at all, then you have 500 GB of unallocated
space. After you run your program, there will be one 300 GB partition
and the rest will be 200 GB of unallocated space. You may do whatever
you want with it. Create one or more partitions. Or do nothing at
all.

And another little titbit I haven't mentioned yet which you might be
interested in.
My main machine, the one I'm writing this on is also a gigabyte
board.
On this machine I have two seperate physical hard drives. When I
peek into disk management I see the following...

Disk 0 (E:)
Basic 149.04 GB NTFS (and it's a primary
partition)
149.04 Gb Healthy
Online

Disk 1 (C:) (D:)
Basic 302.73 GB NTFS 361.33 GB NTFS 34.46GB
698.51 Gb Healthy (System) Healthy
unallocted C: & D: are both Primary
Online

I am sure that 34.36 GB and 698.51 GB are reversed!

Now even with this machine I had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM, "not enough
free hdd space to create image"

If you are tying to image E: (which is over 300 GB) onto the
unallocated prtion of Disk 1, of course you'd have the same problem.

Just above E: shows to be 149.04 GB, which is less than 300 GB.

Thanks for the clarification, Brian. I guess my big mistake was asuming
that MM accurately relayed what the tech told him (or that the tech
wouldn't have made such a blunder himself). I was being far too literal.
That's good to know. I was thinking that the software was subpar.

Lesson learned. In the future, I will never assume. :-)


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