Re: Xpress Recovery2 - The saga continues

"Mickey Mouse" <Mickey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:4L0cl.11602$cu.7323@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Brian,
Please don't misunderstand my next question. I don't mean any disrespect as I ask
in a most respectful way.
When it comes to this topic, do you know what you're talking about ? I've had a couple
replies and frankly those replies have come from some with little or no experiance re- XR2.

I do not and never have used XR2, I've been using Ghost from way back when and added ATI Enterprise Server near 2 years ago, both by far superior to XR2.

Just heard back from Gigabyte again.
Their response:
"The Unallocated space needs to be at least the same size as your system partition."

No, it must to be at the least, the same size as the total data on the
partition you're going to create the image for.

So, if I understand you,
If my OS + reg files + boot stuff + and all that other startup stuff
plus then my applications and every other damn thing else that gets installed onto my C: system partition
comes to say 5Gb, then my unallocated space should be minimum 5Gb. In which case I should make sure
that the unalllocated space I create is say, 10Gb to allow for future backup/image expansion.

If you say Yes to this, then I would have to say that's incorrect.

From:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/TechGuide_List.aspx?NewTechID=91

<quote>
Xpress Recovery2 will store the backup image file at the end of the hard disk,so user must reserve enough unallocated hard drive partition space in advance. (A minimum 4GB is recommended but the actual space is dependent on the size of the data to be backed up)
</quote>

I've tried many ways to get XR2 installed and going.
An example/
I've tried a C: primary partition of 300Gb and an 'unallocated space' of 100Gb
Now the only thing at that time on my C: drive was my OS + Mobo drivers.
Adding those two together only comes to a few Gb's,,, maybe.
Now that 100Gb of 'unallocated space' should and is way, way big enough, right?
Well I still get a message saying "Insufficient free HHD space to create the image Error 403".

My thoughts are you're getting the Error 403 Forbidden/Access Denied because for one reason or another XR2 isn't seeing the unallocated space, if any error logs are created you can check them out to possibly find out why. On the other side, you'ld have to discuss it with Gigabyte support to sort it out.

According to Gigabyte, if you take them literally, the 'unallocated space' in the above scenario should be
300Gb and not 100Gb's. In which case I might be able to reclaim some of the 'unallocatted space' AFTER
it's made it's own partition.

The only reason for the space to be doubled where the image will be stored, would be if the imaging application creates a new image in the space before deleting the present image in the space. To the point, there must be enough storage space for the image being created whether the space will store 1 image or multiple images.

And another little titbit I haven't mentioned yet which you might be interested in.
My main machine, the one I'm writing this on is also a gigabyte board.
On this machine I have two seperate physical hard drives. When I peek into disk management I see the following...

Just because it's a Gigabyte board doesn't mean the application will work with it, they state on the linked page I provided:
<quote>
On a few motherboards based on Nvidia chipsets, BIOS update is required for Xpress Recovery2 to correctly identify RAID and SATA IDE mode. Please contact your motherboard manufacturer.
Xpress Recovery2 supports only PATA hard disks and not SATA hard disks on the following motherboards: GA-K8U, GA-K8U-9, GA-K8NXP-SLI, GA-K8N Ultra-SLI, GA-K8N Pro-SLI, GA-K8NXP-9, GA-K8N Ultra-9, GA-K8NF-9 (PCB Ver. 1.0), GA-K8NE (PCB Ver. 1.0), GA-K8NMF-9, GA-8N-SLI Royal, GA-8N-SLI Pro, GA-8N-SLI
</quote>

Disk 0 (E:)
Basic 149.04 GB NTFS (and it's a primary partition)
149.04 Gb Healthy
Online

Disk 1 (C:) (D:)
Basic 302.73 GB NTFS 361.33 GB NTFS 34.46GB
698.51 Gb Healthy (System) Healthy unallocted C: & D: are both Primary
Online

Now even with this machine I had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM, "not enough free hdd space to create image"
HOWEVER! I made E: 'active' and then for some reason XR2 installed and did it's thing.

AFAICT from what they state, the partition only needs to be a Primary one, read the linked page.

I now have the following, after the system files and applications installed.

Disk 0 (E:)
Basic 149.04 GB NTFS (and it's a primary partition)
149.04 Gb Healthy (Active)
Online

Disk 1 (C:) (D:)
Basic 302.73 GB NTFS 361.33 GB NTFS 28.51GB 5.95GB
698.51 Gb Healthy (System) Healthy unallocted Healthy (EISA Configuration)
Remember, this only worked after making E: active.

The machine I want to install XR2 on only has one physical drive partitioned to C:300Gb & D:200Gb with 30Gb 'unallocated'
I'm wondering as I write this, can I, and what would happen if I made D: 'Active'?

It's been my understanding that you can only have one Primary partition set as Active on a single Volume, unless each Active Primary is hidden from any other one and if the partition is an Extended one it can not be set as Active.

Unfortunately, I won't have that machine back here for a few days
You know, mastering the Rubik's Cube was easier than this. I could walk away from this problem and live a happy life, but I'm
not going to let it go! Don't ya just luv a good puzzle
Getting to be a bit like a Sherlock Holmes novel though.

It's all part of the learning curve in the "mystery" of life. Not unlike these minor in-between events, we know the final outcome for life, we're all born to die.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


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