Re: more blue screen misery

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On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 00:06:00 -0800, Confused <Confused@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

hello.

you were DEAD ON about the capacitors. 8 of the 9 big ones beside the cpu were
swollen, discolored on top or leaking. the leakage on 2 of them actually
looked kind of burnt.... i'm surprised i never smelled an odor...


do you repair motherboards by chance? just curious. after reading so much
with the all nighter, its amazing that i didn't run across the capacitor
plague possibility (within the forum) without your answer to my post.


i'm saddened but grateful that i can let the machine die.... unless, i can
find a reasonable shop to replace the capacitors for me... the board looks
otherwise -- pretty good. have any experience with fixit shops?? it'd be nice
to know whether my neighborhood tech shop would be charging a fair fee for
the job.......

I have repaired a few motherboards in my time. Out of about 25 with the 'plague',
I've been able to fix about 23. I typically charge $95 (in Pittsburgh) to complete
this. Even though you can purchase a new motherboard for less than that, it's
doubtful that you'll find an exact replacement. If that's the case then you're
looking at having to buy a new CPU, memory, video, reloading XP and all your apps.
Some customers opt for the fix rather than going through all it that is required to
replace the mobo with a new one.

Successfully replacing capacitors on a motherboard takes the right tools, the right
parts and the right tech. I know another (younger) tech who has attempted this fix
at least a dozen times but has yet to get it right even once (he works at Best Buy
as a Geek). If you do choose to have it repaired, find a tech with a good track
record and preferrably an older guy who knows how to solder - a lost art IMO.

Good luck,
NRJ

again, i do appreciate your help. thanks.

BTW, I'm an old hardware guy - most of the people providing answers in this forum
are software oriented. Granted, your problem could've been software but in the
future, it would be a good idea to post to the microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
group too.






"I_cannot_say@xxxxxxxxxxx" wrote:

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 05:34:05 -0800, Confused <Confused@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I have a compaq presario computer thats been old faithful ....until 2 days
ago that is. The model number is s4120wm, amd athlon xp 2600+ 2133
MHz/266MHz 256k cache ram & 1g (otherwise) of memory. I have a 60g hard drive
thats over 50% free space. My CPU fan has been running at 2000 RPM, the
System fan's been running at 1100 RPM (give & take for both) My CPU temp has
been a steady 55 - 57 degrees. I don't know but sounds cool to me.
My problem began when I was on the internet... I was reading news articles
from the NYTimes & like always I managed to clicked & openned ALOT of
subsequent links to other articles during the course of my "read" -- probably
10-15 or so tabs & other explorer windows. After one of my 'open to new tab"
moves, explorer froze. I was expecting the usual 'explorer has encountered a
problem & must shut down' notices to come up -- but it never did. Not only
did it not come up, but my computer froze. No start button, no ctrl alt
delete, to switching between windows, no nothing. I guessed that i had
balled up the cpu with requests so i let the computer sit there for 3 hours
before i decided that it was hopeless & turned off the machine for a reboot.
Then the problem grew & continues. I can't boot up from any mode. Initially,
a normal windows start had a stop 0x0000000a (0x00000002, 0x00000007,
0x00000001, 0x805573eo) blue screen error, IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL with all of
the other notices I've read in the threads saying to restart if this was the
first time you have seen this error -restart your computer. If it reoccurs,
disable bios memory caching & shadowing &/or check recently added hardware &
software..blah, blah.
I have not added any hardware or software to my system in months. Starting
windows normally now stops at the windows xp screen (before login). Starting
windows in safemode or safemode with command prompt stops after listing the
agp440.sys driver. Last known configuration stops at the windows xp screen
(before login) recover console gave me a stop 0x0000007e (0xc0000005,
0x516e735f, 0xf7b1e0d4, 0xf7b1ddd4) with the same otherwise messages that the
IRQ_NOT_E QUAL_OR_LESS did. System Recovery CD option R gives the stop
0x0000000a (0x106cfeee8, 0x000000ff, 0x00000001, 0x8040404f85)
IRQ_NOT_EQUAL_OR_LESS again with the sames otherwise messages that that irq
error seems to always give... HELP. PLEASE. Anybody? There has to be a way to
bring this back! I ran Maxtor Power Max... my hard drive passed a full 2 hour
extended test. I ran a memory check through the bios extended boot... so i
don't think memory is a problem either... any thoughts from anyone?

Could be the dreaded Capacitor Plague - lookie here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Your motherboard is most likely an ASUS, with bad capacitors. Look at the leaking
caps on the above web page and compare them with the ones on your board - they are
located just to the left of the CPU.

Next, make sure the fan on your video card is spinning, if it has one. Also, reseat
the video card (if it has one) along with the memory sticks - remove them, clean
out the slots then re-install them making sure they're completely seated.

Other than that, you might consider a new box, which could cost less than having
your current box repaired....

Good Luck,
NRJ

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