Re: Compacting folders

They have daily trips on a "tour boat" that goes from the bridge, around North Island and back. Probably on one of those.

NAS-NI is the home of the USS Nimitz (CVN-68) and the USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) aircraft carriers. It is something to be out in the bay fishing when one of these ships returns from a tour at sea.
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~Bruce

"Gerry" <gerry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eKV66HsaJHA.5392@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Bruce

My recollection is a very pleasant boat trip to near what must be the North Island Naval Station. Lots of naval aircraft, a large Aircraft carrier and birds ( feathered variety.).

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Gerry
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
3 blocks north on the street I'm on is the south end of San Diego
Bay. I can see the Coronado - San Diego bridge and the taller of the
buildings in SD.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=32.635906,-117.101898&spn=0.181565,0.541077&t=h&z=11

"Gerry" <gerry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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OK Bruce

Your amendment to your signature prompted me to read to read about
Imperial Beach. Someone has gathered a lot of information and put it
on Wikipaedia. I do not remember Imperial Beach but my wife and I
did enjoy a brief visit to San Diego about 8 years ago. Oh we did
not build any sand castles!

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Gerry
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
OK. I am just saying that having subfolders under the Inbox does not
add to the likelihood of Inbox corruption. I'll leave it at that.

"Gerry" <gerry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Bruce

My point is that there is unlikely to be any problem if they are
not sub-folders of the Inbox. They will be where they were before
the Inbox was corrupted.



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Gerry
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
Yes, I agree that user created folders are less likely to become
corrupt.
Depending on what actually happened, the subfolders can still be
under the either new or empty Inbox, (most likely), or out in the
open. But they will definitely be somewhere in the folder tree
unless they were accidentally deleted, but that's a whole
different topic. "Gerry" <gerry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Bruce

Your response to my first point is the answer of a politician.
Would you agree that non-system ( user created ) folders rarely
corrupt?

So are you saying the sub-folder of the Inbox pops up in the new
Inbox or as a sub-folder in a different part of the folder tree?


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Gerry
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
The Inbox, Sent Items and Deleted items are more prone to
corruption than user created folders largely because they are
accessed more often.
I disagree with the second statement. If the Inbox alone becomes
corrupted, there is no reason to recover messages in the
subfolders as they were not affected and their messages were not
lost. Like I said. Every folder has its own dbx file regardless
of how the folder tree is structured.
"Gerry" <gerry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Bruce

Would you agree that non-system ( user created ) folders rarely
corrupt? The exception would be excessively large files, which
the system is struggling to handle.

The problem with sub-folders of the Inbox is that if the inbox
corrupts then most users do not know how to recover the
contents of the sub-folder. --



Gerry
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
I have to respectfully disagree with you. Bad1 is a subfolder
of the Inbox and Bad2 is a subfolder of Bad1. If you look in
the messages store there will be a Bad1.dbx file and a
bad2.dbx file. They are not inside the Inbox and do not share
the same dbx file. I also respectfully disagree with Gerry.
There is absolutely
nothing wrong with having a subfolder located under /any/ OE
folder, user created or default.

"CBoom" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The OP may have subfolders of the Inbox with subfolders
under those subfolders, but he cannot have a user created
folder /inside/ the Inbox. Just can't be done.

I prefer to make things clear and simple for the OP to
understand... I made a simple image below

I don't know what you are saying the above, above because I
can have "a user created folder /inside/ the inbox" as you
can see in the screenshot below

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/3149578867_9921b84820.jpg?v=0

from the above screenshot the 2 folders there with names bad1
and bad2 is a bad strategy, since each of those share the
same and single dbx file of the INBOX

while Good1 and Good2 each has its own dbx file and each dbx
file has the 2gb limit. While the combined capacity of
inbox+bad1+bad2 is only 2gb, the combined capacity of
Inbox+good1+good2 is 6GB! To the OP, you should organize
your data as GOOD1 and GOOD2
since each of these have a separate dbx file, and not as BAD1
BAD2 since these share the same dbx file with the INBOX

and as I said there is a limit of 2 gb for the dbx files..
outlook just cant handle bigger size than than ...

and again I must point out, by deleting emails or moving
folders without compacting, you are NOT decreasing the size.

You have to compact after so that the dbx files shrink.






"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I /did/ suggested a 100MB max, (my habit), as corruption
usually occurs long before the 2GB limit is reached.

The OP may have subfolders of the Inbox with subfolders
under those subfolders, but he cannot have a user created
folder /inside/ the Inbox. Just can't be done.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"CBoom" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Listen carefully because no one else is telling you these
things!: 1) when the dbx = databases of outlook express
reach 2gb in size
then Outlook express crashes and you lose data!!

The way to avoid this is to make new folders along side the
inbox and not
INSIDE the inbox, that way each new folder with have its
OWN database file
(dbx) so more data will be spread out among more databases
creating more stability!

2) after moving or even deleting emails from outlook
express the DBX files
DO NOT SHRINK UNLESS YOU COMPACT THEM!

even if you delete EVERY EMAIL the previous large size
remains unless you
compact them!

so do what I said in step 1, create new folders along side
the inbox, outbox
etc, and take the emails from the subfolders inside the
inbox and place them
there...

then compact everything!

You can back up your dbx folder BEFORE doing all this if
you are afraid..

if you don't know how, post back and I will tell you!


"cajun_mike" <cajun_mike@ qwest(DONOTSPAM).net> wrote in
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I've reached the point where every time I exit OE I'm
asked if I want to
compact my folders to save space. The answer is, and will
be, no. I have
plenty of space, back up often, and run Outlook Express
Quick Backup. No
sweat.

How can I stop the program from repeatedly asking me if I
want to back up
the folders?

Thanks a million!

Mike



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