Re: Compacting folders

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Yes, I agree that user created folders are less likely to become corrupt.

Depending on what actually happened, the subfolders can still be under the either new or empty Inbox, (most likely), or out in the open. But they will definitely be somewhere in the folder tree unless they were accidentally deleted, but that's a whole different topic.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Gerry" <gerry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eua0LDqaJHA.4792@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Bruce

Your response to my first point is the answer of a politician. Would you agree that non-system ( user created ) folders rarely
corrupt?

So are you saying the sub-folder of the Inbox pops up in the new Inbox or as a sub-folder in a different part of the folder tree?


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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
The Inbox, Sent Items and Deleted items are more prone to corruption
than user created folders largely because they are accessed more
often.
I disagree with the second statement. If the Inbox alone becomes
corrupted, there is no reason to recover messages in the subfolders
as they were not affected and their messages were not lost. Like I
said. Every folder has its own dbx file regardless of how the folder
tree is structured.
"Gerry" <gerry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Bruce

Would you agree that non-system ( user created ) folders rarely
corrupt? The exception would be excessively large files, which the
system is struggling to handle.

The problem with sub-folders of the Inbox is that if the inbox
corrupts then most users do not know how to recover the contents of
the sub-folder. --



Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Bruce Hagen wrote:
I have to respectfully disagree with you. Bad1 is a subfolder of the
Inbox and Bad2 is a subfolder of Bad1. If you look in the messages
store there will be a Bad1.dbx file and a bad2.dbx file. They are
not inside the Inbox and do not share the same dbx file.

I also respectfully disagree with Gerry. There is absolutely nothing
wrong with having a subfolder located under /any/ OE folder, user
created or default.

"CBoom" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The OP may have subfolders of the Inbox with subfolders under
those subfolders, but he cannot have a user created folder
/inside/ the Inbox. Just can't be done.

I prefer to make things clear and simple for the OP to
understand... I made a simple image below

I don't know what you are saying the above, above because I can
have "a user created folder /inside/ the inbox" as you can see in
the screenshot below

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/3149578867_9921b84820.jpg?v=0

from the above screenshot the 2 folders there with names bad1 and
bad2 is a bad strategy, since each of those share the same and
single dbx file of the INBOX

while Good1 and Good2 each has its own dbx file and each dbx file
has the 2gb limit. While the combined capacity of inbox+bad1+bad2
is only 2gb, the combined capacity of Inbox+good1+good2 is 6GB!

To the OP, you should organize your data as GOOD1 and GOOD2 since
each of these have a separate dbx file, and not as BAD1 BAD2 since
these share the same dbx file with the INBOX

and as I said there is a limit of 2 gb for the dbx files.. outlook
just cant handle bigger size than than ...

and again I must point out, by deleting emails or moving folders
without compacting, you are NOT decreasing the size.

You have to compact after so that the dbx files shrink.






"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I /did/ suggested a 100MB max, (my habit), as corruption usually
occurs long before the 2GB limit is reached.

The OP may have subfolders of the Inbox with subfolders under
those subfolders, but he cannot have a user created folder
/inside/ the Inbox. Just can't be done.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"CBoom" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Listen carefully because no one else is telling you these
things!: 1) when the dbx = databases of outlook express reach 2gb in size
then Outlook express crashes and you lose data!!

The way to avoid this is to make new folders along side the inbox
and not
INSIDE the inbox, that way each new folder with have its OWN
database file
(dbx) so more data will be spread out among more databases
creating more stability!

2) after moving or even deleting emails from outlook express the
DBX files
DO NOT SHRINK UNLESS YOU COMPACT THEM!

even if you delete EVERY EMAIL the previous large size remains
unless you
compact them!

so do what I said in step 1, create new folders along side the
inbox, outbox
etc, and take the emails from the subfolders inside the inbox and
place them
there...

then compact everything!

You can back up your dbx folder BEFORE doing all this if you are
afraid..

if you don't know how, post back and I will tell you!


"cajun_mike" <cajun_mike@ qwest(DONOTSPAM).net> wrote in message
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I've reached the point where every time I exit OE I'm asked if I
want to
compact my folders to save space. The answer is, and will be,
no. I have
plenty of space, back up often, and run Outlook Express Quick
Backup. No
sweat.

How can I stop the program from repeatedly asking me if I want
to back up
the folders?

Thanks a million!

Mike



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