Re: No Sound Recorder

Lorraine W wrote:
Thanks for all your input and work on this Bill. My replies and comments
follow each of yours below.

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Lorraine W wrote:
Thanks for the input Bill & Philo, but before I didn't need ANYTHING to
be
able to play the tapes through the computer just using an RCA to 3.5MM
Stereo Mini (Y cable).

Right - you don't need Sound Recorder for that. (but the fact that it
was
missing from Accessories is also somewhat puzzling, but may be just
coincidental)

The sound recorder works (even though missing from the programs menu) as
it
recorded the audio test I did by creating a loop following these
instructions rec'd from the tech where the computer was manufactured.:
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"To Test Sound Card Line-In Jack Using Audio Loopback (RealTek):

This technique will cause the computer to record signal emitted from the
speaker output.

1. Use a double-ended mini-DIN 8mm headphone cable.
2. Connect one end of the cable to the speaker output jack (lime)
3. Connect the other end of the cable to the line-in jack (blue)
4. Go to the Control Panel and start the Sound and Audio Devices applet.
5. In the Device Volume section, click on "Advanced"
6. Go to the Options menu, then Properties menu item
7. Choose "Realtek HD Audio Input" from the Mixer device list
8. Place a checkmark in the Recording Control, CD Volume, Line Volume,
and Mic Volume items
9. Click Ok
10. In the Recording Control, ensure the Recording volume is high, and
that all controls are UNmuted
11. Go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>Sound Recorder
(or enter %systemroot%\system32\sndrec32.exe in Start>Run box)
12. Open the RealTek Audio I/O Control (double-click on the brown
speaker icon in the task tray next to the clock, or go to the RealTek HD
Sound Effect Manager in the Control Panel)
13. Click on the Audio I/O tab and ensure that the Line-In (blue) and
Speaker Out (green) indicators are lit up. If they are not, you may
have a cable problem.
14. Go to the 3D Audio Demo tab
15. Click on the play button at the lower right
16. In the Sound Recorder tool started in step 11, click on the record
button (red dot)
17. If you see a stream of waveforms, your line-in jack are working
correctly and receiving signal from output. If not, there may be a
driver issue or the jack is malfunctioning."
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Everything worked as it should, and I saw the wave forms.

I assume the waveforms created here are due to the positive feedback between
the output and the input (kinda analogous to putting a mic next to a speaker
:-)

I have Roxio Media Creator 10 for recording, but when I try to set that
up for recording, there is nothing in the drop down box for "Capture
from"
or "line in".

But that might be an issue with Roxio Media Creator and not your
computer's
sound controller (not sure). (I don't have Roxio Media Creator, but I
do
have its predecessor, EZCD (Easy CD Creator), and some other audio apps).
More below....

I don't think so, as it wouldn't work even before I installed Roxio.

Where is this "drop down box" you're talking about then? I thought it was
in Roxio. Oh, you must be talking about in Realtek. It didn't work before
you installed Roxio? What were you using then at that time to know that?


The tape deck plays fine through a receiver,

I assume here you are talking about a direct connection between the Line
Out of the tape deck to the Auxilliary (or whatever) inputs of the
receiver,
without the computer being involved. So we know the issue is either
with Roxio or the computer's audio system.

Yes to the first sentence. I think the issue is most likely Windows. On
my old computer I copied tracks from about 5 or 6 cassette tapes with no
problem. Then life got in the way, and I didn't get back to the task for
many months. Then it wouldn't work. I know that I had issues with the
audio control interface (for the intel motherboard with integrated sound)
after some Microsoft updates. Intel helped me sort that out, but I didn't
think then to check out the line in problem.

OK. I don't know anything about the MS updates, as I never take them (as
in thanks, but no thanks, in part for the reasons you've mentioned, and I
don't need them anyways, and I've been burned once or twice before with
those "updates").

As for having problems before with the audio control interface, then maybe
that's where the problem still lies, possibly as a result of something going
wrong with one of the updates. I just don't know. Perhaps some one else
can weigh in here.

Does your computer sound work on any sounds? Say like booting up, or
playing any existing music files, in WMP? But I'm guessing it does.

All sounds (except from the line in) work just fine - video files, wma
files, mp3 files and computer sounds.

I see. JUST using the Line In is the problem. Weird...

the line in on the motherboard
is OK, but the computer just doesn't want to "hear it".

Any other suggestions?

How do you know for a fact that the Line Input on the motherboard's sound
controller is working ok? See, if I recall, you haven't been able to
get
any sound on your computer while using its Line Inputs.

See above.

OK. Got it. I don't know what else to suggest (I assume you've Googled for
this specific problem a bit and found nothing that seems relevant).

And I read that you also checked Device Manager and found nothing amiss
there (from your later post)

Well, maybe someone else has some ideas. Of course, if you can't get it
resolved, you could always consider adding a sound card and going that
route, but that seems like it should be a last resort.

Oh, one more thing - I assume you've played with the Line Input Volume
control in real time (while the tape is playing), and nothing happens there
either.





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"Lorraine W" <lwilki-nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks Bill. I did that, and got the shortcut in the menu, but my tape
deck still isn't being "heard".

Lorraine
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"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I don't know how much help this will be, but I believe the sound
recorder
file is located here: \windows\system32\sndrec32.exe. You could
create
a shortcut to it there, and then move the shortcut into the
Accessories
Menu, and perhaps get Sound Recorder back again that way (assuming
the sndrec32.exe file is still on your HD, which I bet it is).

Lorraine W wrote:
I'm trying to transfer cassette tape files to my computer so I can
re-record to CDs.

I'm running XP Pro SP2 (OEM), and have built in 7.1 channel HD audio
built
into the ASUS motherboard (custom built computer). When I go to
start
all
programs> accessories> entertainment, the only thing listed is
Windows
Media
Player. There is no sound recorder as there was on my old computer.

I tried to install it by clicking on "Add/remove Windows Components",
but
there was no "Entertainment Category". It didn't matter whether I
did
this
from the control panel or from the Windows install screen from the
OEM
disc.
I tried reinstalling the "Accessories and Utilities" but that didn't
help -
still no sound recorder.

I also checked the OEM disc from my old computer (which my hubby
has) and it
didn't have the "entertainment" category either, but the sound
recorder
is shown in the all programs> accessories> entertainment category.
I'm pretty sure it was always there, meaning I didn't install it
later.

I checked the line in on the back of the computer by creating a loop
and it is active and working properly.

I'm wondering if this could be a problem arising from a Windows
Update?
I tried my old computer and it now doesn't recognize the line in or
the
tape deck. It was fine when I first did this, but I only got a few
of
my tapes transferred. Not sure when it stopped working though.

Can anyone please help me to fix this?

Lorraine
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