Re: Windows XP's SP3 is Malware!
- From: Leonard Grey <l.grey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:39:13 -0400
No problems with SP 3 here, a virtual non-event.
There are some users out there who are as poisonous to their computers as any malware. Present company excepted, of coutse ;-)
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Leonard Grey
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JS wrote:
Well said,.
My every day PC is a Windows XP SP2 system that is running great
with Windows XP - 512MB memory, 933Mhz P3 processor and
a 32MB video card.
All of my applications work, my 5 year old scanner (2400 DPI optical)
and 6 year old printer work great. No problems with CD Creator,
Photoshop, MS Office XP, Office 2003 and MS Access.
My new network card has no issues, AND I use that most dreaded
of all software: Norton NAV 2008, Norton System Works 2006,
Norton Ghost. Along with Sunbelt's Counter Spy and Zone Alarm
and several other AV software packages.
There is no way Vista would run on this PC but XP does just fine!
(I have two other PCs that are fine for Vista but are running XP)
Ran a number of tests installing SP3 without problems.
JS
http://www.pagestart.com
"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:O6n3TnxHJHA.1156@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxgood advice.Okay... But it is also fact that at some point - further updates will not be available to those who do not install SP3 - thus eventually leading to vulnerabilities that (because of the choice not to install SP3) will not have fixes.
the white paper clearly
states there is no dramatic
improvements to the o.s.
if people want to seeHmmm... You left out (IMHO) "... and purchase a new computer that will run it well ...". Jumping to Vista in comparison to installing SP3 onto a working Windows XP setup that performs well as a Windows XP machine is not even a close comparison.
dramatic improvements,
then they simply need to
jump to vista.
Let's say I have a Windows XP SP2 system that is running great with Windows XP - 768MB memory, 1.8GHz processor, 64MB video card, all of my applications work, my 5 year old scanner and 4 year old printer works great. My 6 year old network card has no issues, even my 4 year old wireless network device works fine. My 3 year old TV capture card records what I need off TV and my camcorder.
If I try to upgrade that machine - as is - to Windows Vista - there is a possibility some of that hardware will not be supported in Vista by the manufacturer who created it. It is the manufacturer's choice (for each individual product) to decide when they stop providing support. It's probable that many of the devices i have working in Windows XP didn't work in *nix, OSX, etc from the start - so it not working in Vista may be a decision easily made by the original manufacturer.
Also - my 768MB memory, 1.8GHz processor and 64MB video card means that my Windows Vista 'experience' will be pretty miserable. It's much like taking a pre-Windows XP machine with a 400MHz processor, 64MB memory and a 1MB video card and installing Windows XP onto it. You can do it - but it's not worth the time, effort or money.
in fact if people install sp3There are *few and far between* of these. Yes - I recommend everyone update their individual hardware drivers to the latest versions before installing SP3 - but unlike SP2 - this is not a common occurance.
with drivers that are tied to
only sp2 then there will
be issues, like what you
have experienced and
thousands of others.
further, if one installsExcept that anyone can easily make an SP3 integrated (and/or beyond) CD with a few simple commands and some copying/CD burning or use a number of applications that do all of that for you and put in even less effort.
sp3, then their sp2 install
their cd will make a nice
window ornament.
I'm not saying anyone *has to* install SP3. The people still happily (and arguing for it vehemently) using Windows 98 are proof that you can do whatever you like and probably - if it does what you need - get away with it indefinitely. However - the extreme view taken by the OP is just wrong. Windows XP SP3 is *far from* being malware. That is likely just an extremist viewpoint likely made by a frustrated user who may have had issues installing SP3 because of some issue specific to their system.
For those who wish to fix whatever might already be wrong with their system (likely only costing time and effort and you learn something along the way) - I suggest some reading, following instructions and getting SP3 installed while you can still get free support for issues you might encounter from those who put out the service pack...
A place to get FREE support for SP3 installation issues *from Microsoft*...
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131
WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx
Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
For everyone else - I wish you luck and happiness with your decision to not install Windows XP SP3 and hope it does not cause you trouble down the line.
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