Re: XP SP3 install and problems afterwards
- From: Roberto <Roberto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:23:07 -0700
The web page at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717 provided the solution
I used Method 3.
"Shenan Stanley" wrote:
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James Silverton wrote:
I disagree with the notion that I should have to do background
reading for what was downloaded by MS as an "update". I have
updating set to download but only to install when I say so. That
was the situation for this SP3 stuff. If Microsoft considers
certain programs like virus detection should be switched off, they
should say so. They should not expect a person whose main use is
Office tasks and the Internet to read up on things that seem to be
like "nailing jelly to a tree!" in their use of jargon. Security
suites are not frills and should be expected to be present.
I have gone to "Add and remove programs" and don't see signs of
anything after 8/15/08, ie. before the last download. As far as SP2
is concerned, it is a mysterious addition to XP that was on my
machine when I bought it so there has been no need to find out
about it.
As Bob Lucas suggests, I may go the Tools/Windows update/Custom
Update route but only when I am fully awake and have lots of time.
As for having to read up on the updates - although I agree it should not be
necessary, it is only because there are millions upon millions of possible
combinations that make up a computer. Every computer is unique. If they
were all the same (hardware wise and driver-revision wise and such) and
running the same OS with the same programs and the same user accounts and
the same everything else... Different story.
What each person has done by using a computer the way they intended is
create their own microcosm. Only they can know (and in most cases - they do
not) what all they have done, installed, uninstalled, tried, not tried,
pushed in too hard, mismatched, overloaded, overclocked, underclocked,
replaced and maintained/not maintained on their computer.
Most people will load SP3 and likely never know they did anything (or they
won't do anything and it will just be loaded) and they will go along their
happy lives - oblivious to the inner-workings. Some will have some 'just
wrong' combination of things that causes a hiccup. It is *their*
combination/doing - or those from whom they purchased the system or those
who configured it for them.
I do not know how many thousands of computers I have put SP3 on at this
point. I do know that I have only had a handful of problems. "Access
Denied"... One HP with AMD processor and an image made from a machine with
an Intel processor. A few with the 'updates download but do not install'
after the fact (my bad - should have rebooted before installing SP3.)
I have not had a single Windows XP (32bit) system that I have not been able
to put SP3 onto yet. Those few required a little research - and in response
to that - I now *prepare* before I start to install SP3 just so I don't have
to troubleshoot later.
- Does virus protection *have* to be turned off? I have not had that be the
case in any of my installations yet.
- Do you *have* to reboot right before installing SP3? I have had cases
where it worked out fine without the reboot.
- Do you have to update hardware drivers? Do you have to CHKDSK/defragment?
Do you have to scan with Antivirus/Antispyware? Do you have to uninstall
unused applications? Do you have to backup your important files/folders?
Had the SP3 installation onto Windows XP work without any/most/some of those
being done.
Is it *wise* to do most of that? Should you be doing many of those things
reguardless of what you are/are not installing? I think so. It's just like
getting the oil changed in your car, taking out your garbage, washing the
dishes, cutting the grass... It's the cost of ownership...and although you
can go so long without doing any of it - given none of it is difficult - you
may just be oiling the trigger on the gun to shoot your own foot off by
neglecting these things.
But... That's a 'to each their own' thing. Not my place to say what anyone
else chooses to do. All I can present is what I would do and why...
--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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