Re: XP cant see 2nd drive

NOT AT ALL!!! DOS cannot read NTFS so it won't be able to access the drive! The drive *may* be toast, we don't know that, but by no means is the inability to access it in DOS a conclusive indication that the drive is duff!

John

neil wrote:

If DOS wont let you change to the C:\ drive then I would suspect the drive is duff. You can try JSs suggestion that may allow you to recover data. (not used it myself so I don't know)

hard luck (unless you can recover something, then yippee)
backups are a wonderful thing, especially as hind site.
Neil
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On Aug 17, 12:00 pm, "neil" <neilp67_@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Using a caddy is a good option so long as the drive is OK, I don't think you
are sure it is yet...? Otherwise you will buy the caddy only to find the
drive doesn't work. If it is OK then after the files are recovered you can
format the drive in windows and use it to either transfer files or perhaps a
backup.
Another option to try to establish if the drive is working would be to try
booting using a floppy disk, connect only the suspect drive and boot using
the floppy.
You can create it from windows if you have a floppy disk drive. (if not then
this advice is useless)
Once the floppy has booted you will have a dos prompt:
i.e. A:\>
type C:\ (press return)
type dir (press return)
a list of files and folders should be listed, if so then the drive is
working. If there is an error message and the files/folders are not listed
then the drive isn't working.
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On Aug 17, 7:42 am, "neil" <neilp67_@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Try here for Samsung link
settingshttp://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/support/userguide/Support_...
Try here for Seagate link
settingshttp://www.seagate.com/images/support/en/us/u5_family_1.gif

see if this helps
Neil"frankg" <frankgr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On Aug 16, 5:24 pm, "JS" <@> wrote:

Are both drives (master and slave) made by the same manufacturer?
And if so by who?

JS

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On Aug 16, 2:51 pm, "neil" <n...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,
Assuming you have set the master/slave links in the right positions
then
you
need to look at the drive using "disk managements". Right click "my
computer" and select "manage", In the left hand pane select disk
management
and see if the old drive is seen there. If it is then you can
"explore"
from
there or allocate a drive letter.
If not then check the master/slave link again. What ribbon are you
connecting to, IDE0 or IDE1in other words the hard drive ribbon or
the
CD/DVD ribbon. You would normally set the second drive as slave.

Neil"franko" <knarfi.s...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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My daughters old Dell 8200 desktop quit - we dont know what
happened
but we suspect she left it on during a thunderstorm and perhaps
there
was a tremendous jolt that the surge protector couldn't handle -
not
sure though. The original symptom was 'it's dead' - no fan, no
hum,
no
beep, no led, no boot to bios, nothing at all...dead.

My suspicion was the psuu so i connected a known good one which
provided power to the mb (fan worked but still no beeps, no
booting,
no anything). So then I reseated all the cards and all the memory
sticks. Nothing. I exchanged the display card. Nothing.Removed
the
heatsink and reseated the cpu . Nothing.

We accepted that the computer is probabbly toast but wanted to
try
and
recover some data

Then I took the hard drive (an old 40gb ATA) out and installed
it
in
another computer as a second (slave) drive. It was tough to get
the
machine to boot but I moved the master/slave jumpers around a
little
on both hd 's and eventually got past the bios etc to Windows.

* Problem
is that this 2nd hard drive isnt seen by windows XP although it
IS
seen in the Bios.

I've tried via My Computer , Windows Explorer , device manager).
I
guess usually one has to format it to be seen
but of course I cant do that if 1.) i want the data and 2)
windows
doesnt find it

Is there a solution?
Alternatively I thought of maybe buying an enclosure and trying
to
read it via a USB connection as an external.

Thanks for any help
F

Thanks Neil.
I did try to find it in Disk management but it is not seen there
either.
It is connected on the same ribbon cable - it is daisy chained.
The master/slave jumper pin settings must be ok because 1) when they
were in other positions the Bios couldnt see them as such and now it
does find both

No the master is Samsung and the slave is Seagate

Re the caddy - that is one of the points I was asking about in my
original post - "is it a viable idea to try"

and thank you for the links to the jumper positions.

I will need some time to work with all this info

Thanks again
F

Booting with a floppy and having only the one suspect hard drive
connected was a good idea!
When I get the A: prompt I cant go anywhere from there - it doesn't
find any other drive and considers C: or any other letter invalid.
I even had a boot floppy that I'd made years ago as a Partition Magic
rescue disk and the PQ utility sees the hard drive and even lets me
label it with a new letter.
I guess that confirms that the hard drive is fried.




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