Re: System Restore Keeping Only One Restore Point

Kayman wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2008 09:14:09 -0300, Vincent wrote:

Kayman wrote:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater—it’s a gimmick that only gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
does improve your security."
<snipped childish over-emotive and misinformed rant>

<snipped make believe security expert drivel>


If you think that my post was meant as a ringing endorsement of third
party firewalls and their marketing hype you misunderstood what I said.
I think that 75% or more of the third party firewalls out there are
nothing more than junk being marketed and sold with rather dubious
claims. If you think that my post was meant to say that the Windows
firewall isn't a good firewall you also misunderstood my view of the
Windows firewall, the Windows firewall does what it was designed to do
very well. Third party software vendors who make claims that the
Windows firewall is insecure are engaging in deceptive marketing, I do
not dispute this and I agree with you that these companies are engaging
in shoddy practices.

On the other hand, would you fail and discredit all anti-virus programs
because viruses or other malware foiled them? Why not? Anti-virus
software programs are foiled and fail every day of the week, why do you
not froth at the mouth and tell users to stop using these programs?

No one ever said that firewalls cannot be foiled, that is not the point,
nothing is fail proof and that includes Microsoft products! What you
and others fail to understand is that outbound filtering can foil "some"
malware and as such it can alert users of potential problems, a firewall
that monitors outbound traffic can be another tool in the fight against
pests, get off your high horse with your claims that firewalls can be
foiled, we all know that and no one disputes this, your argument is
nothing but a red herring! Door locks don't stop all home intrusions,
yet few homeowners would do without them! If you say that firewalls are
0% effective at outbound monitoring you are wrong and you are no
security expert! If you say that egress traffic is a non issue you
truly lack in basic security concepts!

But, as I said earlier, that is not the point, the point is that
customers have asked Microsoft for a method, via the firewall or by
other means, of detecting and controlling egress traffic be it malware
related or not. Not all customers want all of their applications to be
allowed to send data outside, some customers want to control outbound
traffic, they want to know what is sending data outside and that is not
an outrageous demand! It is none of yours, or Microsoft's business to
be telling customers that they don't need to monitor or control egress
traffic, be it malware related or not! If Microsoft doesn't want to
supply such a tool that is fine, customers will look to others for
solutions, stop berating customers just because they make a simple
request for a useful tool to help them with their computing needs!

You or Microsoft and others who rant about firewall hypes have not
supplied any easy useful solutions to the egress filtering request.
Instead, anytime that a Microsoft customer has asked for a way to
control egress traffic what you and Microsoft have done is automatically
froth at the mouth and engage in a tirade about third party firewalls
and the fact that they are not 100% fail safe! No one disputes this and
no one has asked or insisted for a 100% fail proof solution, if they did
they wouldn't run any Microsoft products because not a single Microsoft
product has a 100% mark! Some customers want to control egress traffic
for reasons that are completely unrelated to malware, they have a need
for egress traffic control, what business of yours is it to tell them
that they shouldn't be concerned with egress traffic?

Customers have made a simple request, it isn't for you or Microsoft to
dictate to customers what they should or should not want to do with
their computers. If you cannot supply any useful solutions to that
simple demand STFU and stop telling customers what they should want or
not want. I repeat once again, anyone who claims that people should not
concern themselves with egress traffic and that it should be allowed to
go on unchecked is no security expert!

Vincent
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