Re: Reinstallation erases all?

Its all there plus hal.dll.
Put expanded ones (renamed) on also?

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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No. Put a all purpose boot.ini file on the diskette, like the one on
Bart's site:

============================================================
[boot loader]

timeout=-1
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="First harddisk, first
partition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="First harddisk, second
partition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="First harddisk, third
partition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS="First harddisk, fourth
partition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Second harddisk, first
partition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Second harddisk, second
partition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Second harddisk, third
partition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Second harddisk, fourth
partition" /fastdetect
====================================================================

John

Anton wrote:

PS
XP got SP2 and are on NTFS if it makes any diff. W2 are on FAT.

"Anton" <nosp@xxxxx> skrev i meddelandet news:...

First in the broken PC via CD and R, now it worked a little better and
simpler on a working PC.

Without starting disk "NTLDR missing"
With -:- hal.dll missing on all but not XP, it started on second but

stopped

at the XP logo.
Last working still wrong I/O.
Now I'll try to implement the missing ones the new way.

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How are you trying to copy the files? From which operating system are
you trying to do this? Just navigate to the i386 directory on the
Windows XP cd and copy them to the floppy diskette.

John

Anton wrote:


Access denied.

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copy x:\i386\ntdetect.com a:
copy x:\i386\ntldr a:

X is the drive letter of the CD-ROM.

John

Anton wrote:


Those files are only in XP as Sp's, otherwise in W2, as found in 3

other

PC's. Now I'll try on the XP CD but where?

W2 didnt start to my surprise.


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You *MUST* use the Windows XP version of the files ntldr and
NTDETECT.COM, extract them from the Windows XP cd. As mentioned in
another post the Windows 2000 version of these files *cannot* boot
Windows XP.




Does your Windows 2000 installation now boot properly?

John

Anton wrote:




Windows XP version of the ntldr & NTDETECT.COM files are?

I used those from w2k, it started but didnt work: "Previous
working

OS

I/O



fault at use of startsector s.."
Otherwise on first its ntoskrln missing, second w32 conf sys, the

rest

ntoskrln.
This or similar will be next

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot-Manager-Disk/UBCD4WIN.shtml

or

I'll



try bootfix mbr and cfg again when acitve now is changed. Last
I'll

run

over



W2000 on C if nothing better turns up.

Moving the disk over as slave and then transfer what I need didnt

work

last



time, some things couldnt be found but got back when OS was

repaired.

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First part ok.

Copy from XP even if its starting with W2k on C?

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The Active partition flag can be set with a Windows 98 boot

diskette

and



the fdisk utility, Windows 98 boot diskettes are available on
the
Bootdisk.com site. You can also do this with third party tools

like

BootItNG by TeraByte Unlimited.

If you have a floppy drive you can make an XP/NT boot floppy

diskette

and try to boot the Windows installations with it. Remember to

use

the


Windows XP version of the ntldr & NTDETECT.COM files to create

the

floppy diskette. Also, the floppy diskette must contain an NT

boot

sector, it *must* be formatted with Windows NT/2000/XP, if you

format

it



with DOS or Windows 9x the diskette will fail to boot Windows

2000/XP.


http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/

John

Anton wrote:





See in-line:

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See in-line:

Anton wrote:






When XP wasnt working I'd set it active via w2k, then nothing

worked,



deactive without an OS now?

Don't change the Active (System) partition! It will only add

confusion




to the mix, return the active partition status flag to the

original

active partition.


How can it be done without an OS?








XP repair doesnt work, from another Bootdisk it says hal.dll

is

a

problem.





What "other Bootdisk" do you mean? To do a repair install of

Windows


XP




you have to use a real Windows XP cd. What is this other boot

disk

that




you speak of?



From bootdisk.com got beyond the black screen and says hal.dll

is


missing/corrupt
Otherwise I use the XP CD.






I'll try to copy an Hal and then check boot.ini.

Make sure that the partition containing the boot.ini file is

the

Active




partition. Post the contents of the boot.ini file here.



Where do I find it without an OS?
Then I'll try to copy to a floppy.

On Logon it is
1E Winnt
2C XP
3M,4H and 5G Winnt

Bootcfg scan has 1-4 without xp!









John







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We don't know how your dual boot is setup, in particular we

don't

know




how your partitions are setup and which one is the Active

(system)


partition. Please keep the following in mind:

1- If you set up your dual boot by following the typical

Microsoft


instructions Windows 2000 will be installed on the Active

(System)


partition. The shared system files Boot.ini, NTDETECT.COM &

ntldr


will




also be in the root folder on this partition.

2- The Windows 2000 version of the shared files
NTDETECT.COM

&

ntldr




cannot boot a Windows XP installation, the Windows XP
version

of

those




files are aware of Windows 2000 and can boot the older

operating

system.




If you do an in-place upgrade (repair install) of Windows

2000

after




XP is installed it will replace the XP version of the files

with

the



older Windows 2000 versions. After the repair you have to

replace


those




files with the XP versions, the files can be extracted from

the

Windows




XP cd.

3- More often than not the hal.dll is missing error message

isn't


caused by a missing hal.dll, it is usually caused by an

incorrect

ARC




path in the boot.ini file, the line used to boot Windows XP

points


to




the wrong location of the installation on the hard disk.

John

Anton wrote:







Repair worked in W2k but not in XP now, like when hal.dll
is

missing,




option invisible. Chkdsk /r, fixboot and fixmbr didnt help.

Should


I




perhaps






act as if hal.dll is missing?

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there is a repair
option provided
via the windows
xp setup cd.

the repair option
will replace and
repair corrupted
or missing system
files.

the repair option
will preserve your
windows and file
system.





http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug9

2.mspx







---------------------------
if you use the other
option involving
reinstallation, then
this option will install
windows and overwrite
your system files and
basically wipe away
your customization.

----------------------------

however, there is also
the option to use the
recovery console via
the windows cd.

with this option you
can access the disk and
perhaps run a chkdsk and
a fixboot command in
the hope that this would
be an easier way to go:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058
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XP and W2k doesnt boot, I get a black screen and tested

reinstallation.





Got







a Warning and stopped, it will wipe out all old files, is

that

true




when






I'm







not formatting again?
















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