Re: Reinstallation erases all?

PS
XP got SP2 and are on NTFS if it makes any diff. W2 are on FAT.

"Anton" <nosp@xxxxx> skrev i meddelandet news:...
First in the broken PC via CD and R, now it worked a little better and
simpler on a working PC.

Without starting disk "NTLDR missing"
With -:- hal.dll missing on all but not XP, it started on second but
stopped
at the XP logo.
Last working still wrong I/O.
Now I'll try to implement the missing ones the new way.

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How are you trying to copy the files? From which operating system are
you trying to do this? Just navigate to the i386 directory on the
Windows XP cd and copy them to the floppy diskette.

John

Anton wrote:

Access denied.

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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copy x:\i386\ntdetect.com a:
copy x:\i386\ntldr a:

X is the drive letter of the CD-ROM.

John

Anton wrote:

Those files are only in XP as Sp's, otherwise in W2, as found in 3
other
PC's. Now I'll try on the XP CD but where?

W2 didnt start to my surprise.


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You *MUST* use the Windows XP version of the files ntldr and
NTDETECT.COM, extract them from the Windows XP cd. As mentioned in
another post the Windows 2000 version of these files *cannot* boot
Windows XP.




Does your Windows 2000 installation now boot properly?

John

Anton wrote:



Windows XP version of the ntldr & NTDETECT.COM files are?

I used those from w2k, it started but didnt work: "Previous working
OS

I/O


fault at use of startsector s.."
Otherwise on first its ntoskrln missing, second w32 conf sys, the
rest
ntoskrln.
This or similar will be next

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot-Manager-Disk/UBCD4WIN.shtml
or

I'll


try bootfix mbr and cfg again when acitve now is changed. Last I'll
run

over


W2000 on C if nothing better turns up.

Moving the disk over as slave and then transfer what I need didnt
work

last


time, some things couldnt be found but got back when OS was
repaired.

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First part ok.

Copy from XP even if its starting with W2k on C?

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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The Active partition flag can be set with a Windows 98 boot
diskette

and


the fdisk utility, Windows 98 boot diskettes are available on the
Bootdisk.com site. You can also do this with third party tools
like
BootItNG by TeraByte Unlimited.

If you have a floppy drive you can make an XP/NT boot floppy
diskette
and try to boot the Windows installations with it. Remember to
use

the

Windows XP version of the ntldr & NTDETECT.COM files to create
the
floppy diskette. Also, the floppy diskette must contain an NT
boot
sector, it *must* be formatted with Windows NT/2000/XP, if you
format

it


with DOS or Windows 9x the diskette will fail to boot Windows

2000/XP.

http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/

John

Anton wrote:




See in-line:

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See in-line:

Anton wrote:





When XP wasnt working I'd set it active via w2k, then nothing

worked,


deactive without an OS now?

Don't change the Active (System) partition! It will only add

confusion



to the mix, return the active partition status flag to the
original
active partition.


How can it be done without an OS?







XP repair doesnt work, from another Bootdisk it says hal.dll
is
a

problem.




What "other Bootdisk" do you mean? To do a repair install of

Windows

XP



you have to use a real Windows XP cd. What is this other boot
disk

that



you speak of?



From bootdisk.com got beyond the black screen and says hal.dll
is


missing/corrupt
Otherwise I use the XP CD.





I'll try to copy an Hal and then check boot.ini.

Make sure that the partition containing the boot.ini file is
the

Active



partition. Post the contents of the boot.ini file here.



Where do I find it without an OS?
Then I'll try to copy to a floppy.

On Logon it is
1E Winnt
2C XP
3M,4H and 5G Winnt

Bootcfg scan has 1-4 without xp!








John






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We don't know how your dual boot is setup, in particular we
don't

know



how your partitions are setup and which one is the Active

(system)

partition. Please keep the following in mind:

1- If you set up your dual boot by following the typical

Microsoft

instructions Windows 2000 will be installed on the Active

(System)

partition. The shared system files Boot.ini, NTDETECT.COM &

ntldr

will



also be in the root folder on this partition.

2- The Windows 2000 version of the shared files NTDETECT.COM
&

ntldr



cannot boot a Windows XP installation, the Windows XP version
of

those



files are aware of Windows 2000 and can boot the older
operating

system.



If you do an in-place upgrade (repair install) of Windows
2000

after



XP is installed it will replace the XP version of the files
with

the


older Windows 2000 versions. After the repair you have to

replace

those



files with the XP versions, the files can be extracted from
the

Windows



XP cd.

3- More often than not the hal.dll is missing error message

isn't

caused by a missing hal.dll, it is usually caused by an
incorrect

ARC



path in the boot.ini file, the line used to boot Windows XP

points

to



the wrong location of the installation on the hard disk.

John

Anton wrote:






Repair worked in W2k but not in XP now, like when hal.dll is

missing,



option invisible. Chkdsk /r, fixboot and fixmbr didnt help.

Should

I



perhaps





act as if hal.dll is missing?

"db.·.. > ` .. ." <)))

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skrev i





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there is a repair
option provided
via the windows
xp setup cd.

the repair option
will replace and
repair corrupted
or missing system
files.

the repair option
will preserve your
windows and file
system.






http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug9

2.mspx






---------------------------
if you use the other
option involving
reinstallation, then
this option will install
windows and overwrite
your system files and
basically wipe away
your customization.

----------------------------

however, there is also
the option to use the
recovery console via
the windows cd.

with this option you
can access the disk and
perhaps run a chkdsk and
a fixboot command in
the hope that this would
be an easier way to go:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058
--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

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XP and W2k doesnt boot, I get a black screen and tested

reinstallation.




Got






a Warning and stopped, it will wipe out all old files, is
that

true



when





I'm






not formatting again?


















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