Re: Danger warning! to the public and note to Databaseben

Hi again, Glen. Here are the "Add-ons that have been used by Internet
Explorer" that you requested and were lost last night when Microsoft picked
the worst possible moment to make me log in:

AUDIO__MID Moniker Class - Microsoft
AUDIO__WAV Moniker Class - Microsoft
DHTML Edit Control Safe for Scripting for IE5 - Microsoft
HHCtrl Object - Microsoft
HTML Document - Microsoft
iTunesDetector Class - (Not Verified)
LSControl Class - Symantec
LSSupCtl Class - Symantec
Microsoft Scriptlet Component - Microsoft
MsnMessengerSetupDownloadControl Class - Microsoft MSN
MUWebControl Class - Microsoft
Office Update Installation Engine - (Not Verified) Microsoft
QuickTime Object - (Not Verified) Apple
RealPlayer G2 Control - (Not Verified) - RealNetwork
SearchAssistantOC - Microsoft
Shell Name Space - Microsoft
Shockwave Flash Object - Macromedia
Symantec Script Runner Class - Symantec
Symantec SmartIssue - Symantec
SymLTQueries Class - Symantec
SymSubQueries Class - Symantec
Tabular Data Control - Microsoft
Update Class - Microsoft Windows XP Pub.
Web Browser Applet Control - (Not Verified) Microsoft
Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool - Microsoft
Windows Media Player - Microsoft
Windows Media Player - Microsoft (NOTE: Listed twice - not a typo)
WUWebControl Class - Microsoft
XML Document - Microsoft
YInstStarter Class - Yahoo!
Advanced Searchbar - Advanced Search
Windows Messenger - (No Publisher Given)
Yahoo Messenger - Yahoo!
Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - Adobe
Advanced Searchbar - Advanced Search (NOTE: Listed twice - not a typo)
CNavExtBho Class - Symantec
eBay Toolbar Helper - eBay
MSN Search Toolbar Helper - Microsoft MSN
PrxcnBHO Class - (Not Verified) Proxyconn
Yahoo! Toolbar Helper - Yahoo!
Advanced Searchbar - Advanced Search (NOTE: Listed 3rd time - not a typo)
eBay Toolbar - eBay
MSN Search Toolbar - Microsoft MSN
Norton AntiVirus - Symantec
Yahoo! Toolbar - Yahoo!

Whew! There they are! All this is certainly improving my typing and
proofreading skills! Ha! Good luck in going through them. Maybe you'll
find something interesting!

Thanks and good night!

Sue

"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986" wrote:

AAARRRRRHHHHHH! Glen, I wrote you a long answer to your last post, including
a very long list of Add-ons used by Internet Explorer and pressed "Post".
Pardon my language, but damn Microsoft made me log in again and when I came
back, my whole message was gone!!! I've got things to do and I'm just not up
to typing that all again. I'll try to give it a shot again tomorrow.

Sue

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline, interspersed below.....

"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986" <MtnLadyinBlackHills1986@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in message news:79D6C024-E8C1-469B-8FC7-6D65C1B0206C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Glee, you were correct about the Norton and McAffee virus scans. My local
ISP does an email scan using McAffee before it reaches my mailbox. The
Norton is on my own system. You say that Norton says its own email scanning
is redundant, unnecessary and can cause problems? You'd think they'd remove
it from their software line.....

You'd think! By their own admission, it is redundant. As long as you have your
resident virus scanner running in the background, the email scanner affords no
useful additional protection. yet, most A-V apps include it. Why? Because users
*think* it makes them safer, and you give them what helps in their feeling of
security. If one supplier adds email scanning, they all must, lest they look like
they are not trying to protect you as well as the competition.


I did run another Ad-Aware SE full scan last night, and it did not find any
more traces of a Trojan Horse.

That is good, and much as I suspected. From your original description, it was never
a trojan horse in the first place, but a trojan downloader, which can download its
friends, the trojan horses and other mal-ware. You may have only had it in your
browser temporary cache. I can't tell because it is now in quarantine and you
cannot give me the exact description from when it was detected. You say it was
found in or connected to the Ntregopt file. With this trojan downloader in
quarantine, can you still find the original Ntregopt.exe file on your computer in
the folder it has been living in all these months?


I will check out the AVG software you gave me the links for. Did you see
the post by "Joe"? He mentioned a software called "Free Home" with the
option to do a boot scan? Do you know anything about this?

The AVG Anti-Spyware app will find most trojans and spyware, and much that is missed
by Ad-Aware and other apps. Do not confuse it with it's sister app, AVG Anti-Virus,
which is an A-V program that you don't need, since you already have Norton.

Joe mentioned Avast Free Home A-V....it is another anti-virus program, and you don't
need it. Your current A-V can be configured to do a boot scan when you start the
computer, if it isn't doing it already. It won't help find a trojan, most likely,
as they aren't loading prior to Windows.


I'm sorry to sound so confused, but I am a computer novice. I have several
people who are kind enough to want to try to help me, but I'm starting to get
"information overload".

Quite understandable, and overload is very easy to hit, even for experienced
professionals. I would not have even entered the thread except the info I saw you
getting seemed to be too far off the mark. There appears thus far to be no need or
reason to wipe anything out, restore anything, or go back months, for this little
thing.


But I guess the main point to this post is: in answer to your question,
when I did a full rescan on Ad-Aware SE last night, there was NO indication
of Trojan Horse traces again. The Trojan trace info in my original post is
still quarantined in my Ad-Aware.

OK. Either install and run Ewido/AVG Anti-Spyware as described in my earlier link,
or just run their online scanner, which I also linked. Have it quarantine or delete
what it finds (quarantine is usually "safer" in terms of avoiding mistakes).

In you reply to DatabaseBen, you mentioned seeing a toolbar/BHO from Proxyconn, Inc
which you disabled. That is a legitimate BHO which is the Proxyconn Web
Accelerator, used by some ISPs to speed up their dial-up access:
http://www.proxyconn.com/

You might check with your ISP as they may have included it. Regardless, you can for
now disable it....at worst having it disabled will only slow down your web pages
loading.

Go back to where you disabled the BHOs and toolbars, in Internet Explorer> Tools
menu> Manage Add-Ons. In the drop-down list, select "Add-ons that have been used by
Internet Explorer" rather than just "Add-ons that are currently loaded". If it's
not too much work, post back with a list of what is shown there. I don't need all
the info listed, just the Names and the first word of the Publishers list.

I can give you some links to reading on how to adjust your settings in IE to help
prevent some of these issues, but for now I think you have more than enough to chew
on, so I can hold those till later. Or I can simply bow out of the thread if you
would rather work with someone else. :-) I'm easy.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm



"glee" wrote:

I haven't found Webroot Spysweeper's background monitoring to be very useful, nor
the background monitoring of any other anti-spyware utilities. I do prefer AVG
Anti-Spyware (formerly Ewido) for on-demand scanning for spyware and trojan
downloaders:
http://www.ewido.net/en/

They've also got an online scan:
http://www.ewido.net/en/onlinescan/

I am not a fan of either Norton or McAfee anti-virus, though either should be
effective against viruses, but somewhat less so against trojans and trojan
downloaders. I can't imaging having both installed at the same time (in fact, I
don't think they will co-habit), so I am guessing the McAfee scan you refer to is
just an online email scan that your ISP uses prior to your receiving the email.

Turn off the email scanning in your resident anti-virus (Norton, I
presume).....even
Symantec support states it is redundant and unnecessary, and can cause problems.

You mentioned that the trojan downloader was quarantined (by Ad-Aware, IIRC), so
do
you still detect any trojans or downloader when you rescan? If so, where are
they
being found....what location on your hard drive? If they are being found in
System
Restore or in the Ad-Aware quarantine folder, then you only have to clear the
quarantine area through the Ad-Aware interface, and or reset System Restore to
delete old restore points.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986" <MtnLadyinBlackHills1986@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote
in message news:B24E2E08-5C4A-43E7-A154-2031978DBB1E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Glee, I found from talking to another person later that the NTREGOPT program
was not the cause of the Trojan Horse, although possibly it could have used
it to "sneak" the Trojan Horse onto my computer.

So now it appears I have a Trojan Horse on my system! I have used security
software from 3 major companies (LavaSoft, Symantec/Norton, and Webroot),
have installed all the security downloads from Microsoft, have my firewall
up, have not added any toolbars, do not go to the so-called "dark side" of
the web, have 2 email scanners (Symantec/Norton and McAfee from my local
ISP), do not use links for "free checkups" of my computer and similar
dangerous links, do not use Instant Messaging, and I still got a Trojan Horse!

I am a computer novice and have done everything I know how to do to keep my
computer safe. I have "crashed" in the past, and I'm beginning to feel that
I want to abandon the Internet. For me, it has changed from a source of fun
and information to a dangerous maze with a hazard around every corner.

Can you give me any information on how to find and remove this Internet
Devil? I'd really appreciate any help you can give me.

"glee" wrote:

This program has been used for years on countless computers, and has been
downloaded
alone and also in the package with its sister app, ERUNT. The fact that you
ran
it
successfully for months and only got a warning about a trojan last week,
indicates
that you simply have a trojan on your system, and it may have replaced that
app,
using its name. It does not in any way implicate the download you got months
ago
from majorgeeks.

In your paste of the trojan information, I don't see any mention of NTREGOPT.
Are
you saying the file itself, ntregopt.exe, is in quarantine? The info you
posted
only mentions a trojan downloader, and points to registry entries for an IE
toolbar.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986" <MtnLadyinBlackHills1986@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote
in message news:E5B8ADB2-CC92-462D-8E79-15AD3081E8E9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
,General Warning Message: Do NOT install the following program:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/NTREGOPT_d4824.html

Hello, Databaseben! I talked to you way back in July when you were very
helpful with all my computer problems. In your last post to me, you
recommended some free programs that could help "clean up" my computer. I've
put a copy of part of what you wrote below:

"http://www.majorgeeks.com/NTREGOPT_d4824.html

The program above will optimize your registry..."

I installed this program, and used it without problem for several months.
But I had an alarming finding about this program when I ran Ad-Aware SE on
10/18/06. Unless I have read it wrong, it appears that a hacker got hold of
it and corrupted it badly. I saved the quarantine area of Ad-Aware. I will
copy what it said about the above software program, which showed the
program's name and logo in the findings before I quarantined it. I
immediately removed it from my computer:

ArchiveData(auto-quarantine- 2006-10-18 21-17-51.bckp)
Referencefile : SE1R128 18.10.2006
======================================================

WIN32.TROJAN.DOWNLOADER
»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
obj[0]=Regkey : S-1-5-19\software\classes\software\microsoft\internet
explorer\toolbar
obj[1]=Regkey : S-1-5-20\software\classes\software\microsoft\internet
explorer\toolbar
obj[2]=Regkey :
S-1-5-21-861567501-2139871995-725345543-1004\software\classes\software\microsoft\internet
explorer\toolbar
obj[3]=Regkey : software\microsoft\internet explorer\toolbar

Of course, I don't understand all the above. I don't know if you can
contact the program's authors and tell them about this development. If not,
I wanted to warn others NOT to install this software... But I wanted you in
particular to know, so you won't recommend it to anyone else.

Quite a world when you try to be helpful and evil people only want to hurt
others! Kudos to Ad-Aware SE to catching this! (I'm sure my Spy Sweeper
would have caught it too but I hadn't done my scan with it yet.)

Databaseben, I did want you to know that your other software suggestions
have been very helpful and I thank you!






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