Re: ntoskrnl.exe problem HELP

So how does one go about editing the registry remotely when the broken system
isn't visible on the network (since it can't boot up completely).

As far as mounting to another NT machine, are you talking about taking the
hard drive out of the broken machine and slaving it to another machine?

What tools would be needed for the boot CD? I've been using the Windows XP
CD, but that only gets me to the recovery console, which thusfar hasn't done
me any good, but if I can expand to the right thing from the CD, that sounds
logical.

This would be a beneficial thing to know. Until today I was always able to
boot machines with stop errors into safe mode to turn off the auto reboot on
stop error, but now that I have experienced not being able to even get into
safe mode, it's nearly impossible to see what the stop error is, and without
knowing that, it's kind of hard to determine the appropriate action to take
next.



"John John" wrote:

Hi,

Unfortunately that wont work, for two reasons:

1- Reg.exe is not available from the Recovery Console. I know of no
way to modify the registry from the Recovery Console.

2- On a "sleeping" Windows installation there is no
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\ key. The key is created
from one of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet00n keys when the
computer boots up, it's a "pseudo" key. During the boot process the
boot loader checks the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to see which
ControlSet to load, then copies the selected ControlSet to the
CurrentControlSet key.

To change the AutoReboot behaviour the registry has to be edited
remotely (from a network machine or mounted in another Windows NT type
machine) or from a boot cd with appropriate tools on board. To
determine which ControlSet00n key to edit you have to get the
information from the Select key.

hth,

John


NewScience wrote:
Hope this is available under Recovery Console:

1. Startup Recovery Console
2. Enter reg.exe (see if it's there)

If it's there, on another machine, create a AutoStop.reg file (call it
anything you want - but it must end with .reg)
Using Notepad, type this in:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CrashControl]
"AutoReboot"=dword:00000000

Save it on a floppy.

Bring broken machine up again under recovery console. Enter:

reg.exe import A:\AutoStop.reg

It should reply successful. This will stop AutoReboot on STOP errors.

If you cannot find reg.exe under Recovery console, copy it on the floppy you
are putting the .reg file on. It's only 50,174 bytes. Both can fit. Then
use everything from A: on the broken system.

Let me know if it worked. If it does, you can fix anything wrong in the
registry using the reg.exe program and possibly fix anything else wrong with
your PC.

"Penny" <Penny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BA91CDEA-EEB8-4004-BA35-04B15284B93D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks for the quick response.

I initially tried getting the ntoskrnl.exe from another machine, but
unfortunately the file is too big for a floppy, and since I can't boot
into
any mode of windows the machine won't be able to see my thumb drive. So
when
the things I tried didn't work that's when I came to the forums.

At this point I can sort of get past the problem, but still can't
successfully get the system to boot enough for me to turn off the auto
reboot
on STOP error so I can see what else is going on. Do you know of a way I
can
do that other than the control panel?

"NewScience" wrote:


If you have had a full updated XP SP2 (with all patches) on this system,
then the ntoskrnl.ex_ (which you expanded to ntoskrnl.exe and placed in
C:\Windows\System32 AND C:\Windows\System32\DllCache folders) may not be
the
version the rest of XP is looking for.

If I'm not mistakened ntoskrnl.exe was modified with some updates. You
need
to get a current ntosknrl.exe (maybe from another system)

"Penny" <Penny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:C23B144F-1E22-44B8-BCB7-D818AA9B3586@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I found other postings on this issue, but since they were from over a
year
ago thought if I were to reply to the thread that it might go
unanswered.

Windows XP won't start because it says that the ntoskrnl.exe is either
corrupt or missing. I found the knowledge base articles regarding
using
the
recovery console and copying ntoskrnl.ex_ from the CD to the
windows\system32
directory.

That got me past that issue (sort of) I tried every variation of
startup
options "normal" "Safe Mode" etc... and I can tell I'm getting a STOP
error,
but since I can't successfully get into windows I can't turn off the
"Automatically restart on stop error" in the control panel.

Does anyone know of a way I can accomplish this so I at least know what
stop
error I'm dealing with? Thus far the only thing I can do is get to the
recovery console.

I don't have a history on this particular machine, but most of our
machines
are XP Pro w/ SP2. This machine is a PIII.






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