Re: Danger warning! to the public and note to Databaseben



Glee, you were correct about the Norton and McAffee virus scans. My local
ISP does an email scan using McAffee before it reaches my mailbox. The
Norton is on my own system. You say that Norton says its own email scanning
is redundant, unnecessary and can cause problems? You'd think they'd remove
it from their software line.....

I did run another Ad-Aware SE full scan last night, and it did not find any
more traces of a Trojan Horse.

I will check out the AVG software you gave me the links for. Did you see
the post by "Joe"? He mentioned a software called "Free Home" with the
option to do a boot scan? Do you know anything about this?

I'm sorry to sound so confused, but I am a computer novice. I have several
people who are kind enough to want to try to help me, but I'm starting to get
"information overload".

But I guess the main point to this post is: in answer to your question,
when I did a full rescan on Ad-Aware SE last night, there was NO indication
of Trojan Horse traces again. The Trojan trace info in my original post is
still quarantined in my Ad-Aware.

Thank you.


"glee" wrote:

I haven't found Webroot Spysweeper's background monitoring to be very useful, nor
the background monitoring of any other anti-spyware utilities. I do prefer AVG
Anti-Spyware (formerly Ewido) for on-demand scanning for spyware and trojan
downloaders:
http://www.ewido.net/en/

They've also got an online scan:
http://www.ewido.net/en/onlinescan/

I am not a fan of either Norton or McAfee anti-virus, though either should be
effective against viruses, but somewhat less so against trojans and trojan
downloaders. I can't imaging having both installed at the same time (in fact, I
don't think they will co-habit), so I am guessing the McAfee scan you refer to is
just an online email scan that your ISP uses prior to your receiving the email.

Turn off the email scanning in your resident anti-virus (Norton, I presume).....even
Symantec support states it is redundant and unnecessary, and can cause problems.

You mentioned that the trojan downloader was quarantined (by Ad-Aware, IIRC), so do
you still detect any trojans or downloader when you rescan? If so, where are they
being found....what location on your hard drive? If they are being found in System
Restore or in the Ad-Aware quarantine folder, then you only have to clear the
quarantine area through the Ad-Aware interface, and or reset System Restore to
delete old restore points.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986" <MtnLadyinBlackHills1986@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in message news:B24E2E08-5C4A-43E7-A154-2031978DBB1E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Glee, I found from talking to another person later that the NTREGOPT program
was not the cause of the Trojan Horse, although possibly it could have used
it to "sneak" the Trojan Horse onto my computer.

So now it appears I have a Trojan Horse on my system! I have used security
software from 3 major companies (LavaSoft, Symantec/Norton, and Webroot),
have installed all the security downloads from Microsoft, have my firewall
up, have not added any toolbars, do not go to the so-called "dark side" of
the web, have 2 email scanners (Symantec/Norton and McAfee from my local
ISP), do not use links for "free checkups" of my computer and similar
dangerous links, do not use Instant Messaging, and I still got a Trojan Horse!

I am a computer novice and have done everything I know how to do to keep my
computer safe. I have "crashed" in the past, and I'm beginning to feel that
I want to abandon the Internet. For me, it has changed from a source of fun
and information to a dangerous maze with a hazard around every corner.

Can you give me any information on how to find and remove this Internet
Devil? I'd really appreciate any help you can give me.

"glee" wrote:

This program has been used for years on countless computers, and has been
downloaded
alone and also in the package with its sister app, ERUNT. The fact that you ran
it
successfully for months and only got a warning about a trojan last week,
indicates
that you simply have a trojan on your system, and it may have replaced that app,
using its name. It does not in any way implicate the download you got months ago
from majorgeeks.

In your paste of the trojan information, I don't see any mention of NTREGOPT.
Are
you saying the file itself, ntregopt.exe, is in quarantine? The info you posted
only mentions a trojan downloader, and points to registry entries for an IE
toolbar.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986" <MtnLadyinBlackHills1986@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote
in message news:E5B8ADB2-CC92-462D-8E79-15AD3081E8E9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
,General Warning Message: Do NOT install the following program:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/NTREGOPT_d4824.html

Hello, Databaseben! I talked to you way back in July when you were very
helpful with all my computer problems. In your last post to me, you
recommended some free programs that could help "clean up" my computer. I've
put a copy of part of what you wrote below:

"http://www.majorgeeks.com/NTREGOPT_d4824.html

The program above will optimize your registry..."

I installed this program, and used it without problem for several months.
But I had an alarming finding about this program when I ran Ad-Aware SE on
10/18/06. Unless I have read it wrong, it appears that a hacker got hold of
it and corrupted it badly. I saved the quarantine area of Ad-Aware. I will
copy what it said about the above software program, which showed the
program's name and logo in the findings before I quarantined it. I
immediately removed it from my computer:

ArchiveData(auto-quarantine- 2006-10-18 21-17-51.bckp)
Referencefile : SE1R128 18.10.2006
======================================================

WIN32.TROJAN.DOWNLOADER
»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
obj[0]=Regkey : S-1-5-19\software\classes\software\microsoft\internet
explorer\toolbar
obj[1]=Regkey : S-1-5-20\software\classes\software\microsoft\internet
explorer\toolbar
obj[2]=Regkey :
S-1-5-21-861567501-2139871995-725345543-1004\software\classes\software\microsoft\internet
explorer\toolbar
obj[3]=Regkey : software\microsoft\internet explorer\toolbar

Of course, I don't understand all the above. I don't know if you can
contact the program's authors and tell them about this development. If not,
I wanted to warn others NOT to install this software... But I wanted you in
particular to know, so you won't recommend it to anyone else.

Quite a world when you try to be helpful and evil people only want to hurt
others! Kudos to Ad-Aware SE to catching this! (I'm sure my Spy Sweeper
would have caught it too but I hadn't done my scan with it yet.)

Databaseben, I did want you to know that your other software suggestions
have been very helpful and I thank you!




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