Re: PC takes 40 attempts to start ????

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it sounds weird, but when metal gets hot then it expands. If there are poor
connections, the heated metal can expand enough to make a viable connection.
Vice versa, cold metal contracts and connections are poor. Although it
sounds like capacitors because they may be taking a lot of time charging up
and or discharging, i think that this would be a constant and not based on
the temperature of the pc. I still think that it could be the switch or
maybe the p.s., if not these components then possibly their connectors...


"Andrew" <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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gs:
FYI:
I worked with a couple of PCs that usually work fine until switched
off for
a while. ( shutdown and turn off the ups). If anyone switch on the
ups and
press the front panel power switch on right away, the pc is not going
to
boot up but will give either beep or click noises. However, if one
waits a
while after the UPS has been turned before pressing the PC's front
Power
button, everything is OK.

Visually, capacitors, transistors seem OK.


"DatabaseBen" <databaseben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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Could be a bad switch....

(Takes a lot of pushing in to eventually catch the power to turn on.
Then
on occasion the power turns off likely due to the switch not staying
on....) Incidentally, if it is the 2 dollar switch, then one can
wonder
how much strain was placed on your motherboard and harddrive by the
intermittent powerups n downs....




"Andrew" <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Please, can anyone tell me what might be going on here ??

A few months back, on the start-up process (just after the desktop
comes
on, but while the PC is still "thinking") i heard sometimes 4 or 5
clicks from the PC (especially when the red light was on, i.e. it's
thinking). Sometimes it didn't click at all. But after a minute or
so
everything was fine. Never thought much of it. Even after installing
a
new Hard Drive it still did it (i was beginning to think it was the
HD,
but now i don't think it can be).

Anyway, lately i have been having problems switching the PC on after
it
has been off for a few hours. Sometimes it comes on fine, but more
often
than not it doesn't and sounds for a split second as if it was
booting
up but then would switch itself back off (only a second after
pressing
the power button to start). I used to have to press the power button
5
or 6 times, but it would eventually start okay. Once it's on the PC
is
fine, no problems at all.

Well things have gotten worse. I was on about 15 minutes yesterday
getting it to switch on. It would switch on for about a second then
switch off and the monitor would say "no signal" at that point. i
had to
try this about 40 times before it came on, but it eventually did
come on
and everything works fine (once it's on !). I thought maybe it was a
one
off, but i have just tried to switch it on and again it took about
30
times to power up.

I removed all the USB devices from it (thinking it was a power
surge
issue), but that didn't fix it. I tried taking the mains plug out of
the
back of the PC for 10 minutes incase it was static, again that
didn't
work. I removed the RAM chips and IDE cable then put them back in,
still
same problem !!. When i booted up with no Hard Drive connected it
did,
however let me go into the BIOS (i couldn't get into the BIOS with
the
HD connected). But i don't think the HD is to blame as it does the
same
with another (good) Hard Drive !!- weird !!

I don't mind having to press the power button 5 or 6 times to get it
on,
like i used to have to do, but 40 times is a problem !

Can anyone suggest anything i could try to see if i can get rid of
this
really annoying problem ??

The Motherboard is about a year and a half old, Athlon XP2200+,
1.81GHz,
720RAM, WinXP Pro (SP1 as some things don't work with SP2 !!).

Oh, one point to note (although i don't think it's related to this
specific problem), is that on boot up (when i do eventually get the
thing to boot up !), it says something to the effect "Cannot locate
Boot.ini, loading from C:\Windows boot.ini" - or words to that
effect
(don't quote me, it may be "system.ini", or "boot.ini", but it's a
.ini
file !). I don't think these issues are related though as these
power
ups have been happening for longer than the .ini issue)

Other system info here is pasted in from Word:
OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name MAXTOR80
System Manufacturer KT266_
System Model AWRDACPI
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 1 AuthenticAMD ~1807 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG,
22/11/2002
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\windows
System Directory C:\windows\System32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.1106
(xpsp1.020828-1920)"
User Name MAXTOR80\Andrew
Time Zone GMT Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 320.47 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.58 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.68 GB
Page File Space 1.83 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys


Please Help !!!!!

Kind Regards,
Andrew




My Power Supply is always connected and always on, so i don't think
that's the case here. It's just when i do a "Turn Off Computer" and
leave it a few hours, it takes lots of attempts to get it back on.
However, if i do a Restart then everything comes on first time !! - it's
weird !!

Regards,
Andrew


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