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(The thread has evolved into a discussion of the use of SATA hard drives as
external devices. Apologies to the OP, but I trust his or her query has been
previously answered and whatever problem he or she had has been resolved.)
Anna

> "Anna" wrote:
>> Tim:
>> Just a minor addendum...
>> From what I've come across so far in some of the newer motherboards is
>> that the eSATA (external) port is available, but there's no power
>> connector available for the SATA drive which will be residing *outside*
>> the case. Of course it would be simple enough to run a power cable from
>> the computer's power supply to the SATA drive's power connector, but of
>> course that's an awkward workaround. It would seem simple enough for the
>> eSATA connector design to include an adjacent power connector which would
>> obviate the need to run a separate power cable between the drive and the
>> computer's PS. And there's still a lingering question in my mind as to
>> whether the eSATA connector will permit a boot from that port. There has
>> been some indication that it may serve *only* as a data port without the
>> BIOS capability of booting a device connected to that port. I (and I'm
>> sure others) certainly hope that's *not* the case. I can't think of any
>> overriding technical reason which would not permit a boot from a SATA
>> drive connected to such a port.



"Timothy Daniels" <TDaniels@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Kingwin makes an external SATA drive enclosure that has a built-in
> fan and power supply:
> http://www.kingwin.com/pdut_detail.asp?LineID=&CateID=52&ID=246 .
> That would remove the need for a power cable from the motherboard.
> Of course, there would be the need for access to 120v.a.c power.

Yes, I'm aware of that enclosure and others like it. But that's the problem
(at least for us). We would much prefer to avoid using a separate PS rather
than using the computer's PS. We don't want the bulk (nor the add'l expense
involved) of a separate PS when the computer's PS is more than adequate for
the purpose. What would be ideal for us (and I guess most users) is a
simple, lightweight enclosure to house the SATA drive with data & power
connectors. But to be sure, the Kingwin & similar enclosures are certainly a
viable solution.

>> You and Kerry may be interested in that simple SATA I/O bracket device
>> that we've been using. Its external connections are the normal SATA
>> connectors - a data connector and a 15-pin power connector. Internally
>> there's the corresponding data connector for a connection to the
>> motherboard's SATA connector and a Molex connector for a connection to
>> the computer's PS. A very simple device which we can use to good
>> advantage. By connecting a SATA drive (we've been doing it with bare
>> drives) to the device, we now have an *external* drive which is bootable
>> since the system will be treating the drive as a normal internal one.
>> It's a capability that, as you know, has eluded us (in XP) with
>> USB/Firewire EHDs. It's a real plus, no doubt about it. BTW, the device
>> we've been using is the SATAPOWPLAT1 manufactured (I think) by
>> StarTech.com. I believe it's generally available retail for about $15.00
>> or so. Now if we can only find a SATA power cable that has the 15-pin
>> connectors on *each* end of the cable!
>> Anna
>
>
> Yes, I see it at StarTech's website:
> http://www.startech.com/ststore/itemdetail.cfm?ProductID=SATAPOWPLAT1&mt=p
> .
> There also SATA data port sockets:
> One socket -
> http://www.startech.com/ststore/itemdetail.cfm?ProductID=SATAPLATE1&mt=p ,
> and 2-socket -
> http://www.startech.com/ststore/itemdetail.cfm?ProductID=SATAPLATE2&mt=p ,
>
> Cute stuff! Have you thought of using the data sockets with a
> Kingwin external enclosure?
> *TimDaiels*

Thanks for the links. I knew it was a StarTech device (the SATAPOWPLAT1 one)
we've been using since that was the name on the bag it came in. The latter
two devices are lacking power connectors and we much prefer the combo unit
which has both data *and* power ports.

If you come across a source for the SATA power cable we're looking for,
i.e., one that has a 15-pin connector on each end, I'd certainly appreciate
hearing about it.
Anna



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