Re: how many users ok?

Okay,
first, it was easy getting info on those items in msconfig. All you do is
copy ( or type when copy & paste functions don't work) whatever you want to
research into your search engine, I use Google. For example, put igfxtray
in your search address and see what comes up. I did that for each one.

[quote] > OK, this is where I start to lose it. If I'm not removing the
> software, but only stopping it from loading at startup, why would
> anyone want it running in the first place?

Well, here's the deal. If those are programs you don't want or need, remove
them from your computer, first by going to their location in your All
programs list, or where ever you have them place, and use the uninstall file
if there is one. If there is no uninstall file then remove them via
Add/remove programs. If they are a component of a program that you do use,
then it's a different story, you'd have to check your software details to
see if specific components can be deleted without interfering with the
software. But, the thing about msconfig is, the function is to stop ( or
allow..which ever your needs are) software /programs that you do use, but
maybe infrequently, from loading at startup ( thus running in the
background..which means it's using resources even though you are not
accessing it at the time) So, by setting your msconfig to that selective
mode, you are in effect telling your pc that you want that software, will
use that software, but only when you want to use it do you need it running.
When you use it, then close that application it reverts back to the 'not
running in the background mode.'


[quote] I started to do this, but got confused by the 'radio buttons'
term. On
> my general tab, I have 5 items that I can check or uncheck. The first
> 4 items are squares, the last item is a round check box.
>
> From top to bottom, they are:
>
> process system.ini
> process win.ini
> load system services
> load startup items
> use original boot.ini

Sorry, radio buttons is the term used to describe the little squares, or
sometimes circles that you can place a mark in to select or deselect an
item.
Once you select 'Selective Mode, place a mark next to load system services,
startup items use original ini. which, as I recall is how they will be
automatically set once you choose selective startup, but I can't remember.


[ quote]
OK, we ran Netscape until we heard it was purchased by AOL. The first
> AOL version of Netscape we got was a disaster, and we dumped Netscape
> for that reason and VERY RELUCTANTLY switched to IE. My feelings about
> AOL are quite similar to my feelings about Microsoft.....'nuff said:>:

Okay, here is a problem. These two things are nasty and very difficult to
get rid of. They are kind of like ants. You see a couple on your counter,
and there are THOUSANDS under the sink where you can't see them. They can
and do cause all kinds of trouble, even when you think you got rid of them.
I'll see if I can find a utility that I have used for others that had
ao-hell on their pc's that really did get it off completely, clean register
and all.
You do need I.E. as I said earlier, in order to get ms updates. Period. But,
you can get a better browser, Firefox. I use IE only for updates, then, once
I do them, I clean the cache, cookies, etc, etc, close it and leave it until
the next updates come out a month later. If it's not used, not open it's
not a risk.
If you do have ms programs that require IE, well, that's the nature of the
beast, I suppose. Can you name one of your programs that requires IE?




igfxtray----- igfxtray.exe is a process which allows you to access access
the Intel Graphics configuration and diagnostic application for the Intel
810 series graphics chipset. This program is a non-essential system process,
and is installed for ease of use via the desktop tray.

[ quote] OK, but we will add more ram, and eventually want to go to a
higher
resolution on the laptops display. If we want to change the display's
resolution, we would probably need to enable this??? Or, does the
windows OS call this program if needed and start it if it's needed to
change the monitors resolution [ quote]


Doubtful, as it appears that this puts access to that in the system tray,
which means it also goes into msconfig, and since you will have access to
display via control panel, there is no need for 'easy access in system tray'
System tray are the programs that reside in memory and the icons can be
seen in your lower right portion of your taskbar, by the clock..ooops, you
don;to have that displayed, I'll bet. ;)



[quote] OK, I use an optical mouse connected to the expansion USB port in
my
> outboard KB. The mouse works great and the low throughput of the KB
> USB ports is not a problem. Since I don't use the stock synaptics
> touch pad or the buttons associated with it, do I need to have this
> [quote]

Nope.

[quote] Also, if I should want to take the laptop with me and use it as a
> portable device, would I have to enable this in order to have the
> stock touchpad function? [quote]

Merely using it will enable it, it just won't load automatically when you
start your pc, however, you might have to start it manually in control
panel>mouse properties.




[quote] OK, we have DSL and our outboard DSL modem connects directly into
the
> NIC card. Since I will probably never use the internal 56 K modem, is
> this item totally un-necessary? [quote]

You can try remove it via add/remove, but I had trouble with my system
when I tried to remove mine. I just went to device manager and disabled it.
It take no space or memory and disabling it was enough for me, but you can
try for yourself, as we have different modems etc.


[quote] cfgwiz....http://startup.iamnotageek.com/srch-cfgwiz.exe.html 9
copy and
>>> paste this in your browser)

Correction..should have been ( copy and paste) not 9 and paste ;)


And really, you can disable all those things in msconfig, it won't hurt a
thing. And they will all start manually when you open those specific tasks,
that is unless you remove those programs.

But I still wonder why your Anti virus is not listed. Sheesh, ditch Norton
and get one of the freeware versions of AVG or Avast.

Oh, ya, there is one program that I use, RegSeeker. It can also be found at
The Major Geeks. It will help you find and eradicate Ao-hell...Some people
do not recommend it because if used incorrectly it really can screw things
up, but if I can use it anyone. can.

Oh, and another thing I just thought of, what is in you your system tray.
If nothing appears to be showing, click on the little chevron, which will
briefly display the contents. You don't have to post all of them, but how
many are there?



<TRABEM> wrote in message news:mdtfg11981irvkgfqgrtqhkv8p27u324qq@xxxxxxxxxx
> WOW...I'm stunned.
>
> I just read your post a few minutes ago, and had to read it over and
> over. I'm still absorbing it.
>
> Not sure where you got all the information you provided on each of the
> items in startup, but it's great to have. I'll be sure and archive it
> so I have it later on.
>
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:35:49 -0500, "lvee" <notmesothere@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>Just to make sure, you found those via, Start>run>type in
>>msconfig>startup tab?
>
> Yes, that's exactly how I got to the startup tab and the listing I
> gave you was from that screen with the startup tab selected.
>
>>None of those are needed to run at startup, but what does concern me is it
>>appears there is nothing familiar at all in your msconfig startup tab.
>
> I'm concerned too.........I thought these were standard items, and
> thought everyone had a large percentage of all of these running also.
>
>>Anyway, you can uncheck all of them, first click selective startup on the
>>General tab, and put a check in the last three radio buttons, then go to
>>the
>>startup tab and remove the check next to any of those that, from the
>>descriptions below, you feel you don't need at startup. Remember, that
>>this
>>does not remove the programs or functions, just prevents them from loading
>>at startup.
>
> OK, this is where I start to lose it. If I'm not removing the
> software, but only stopping it from loading at startup, why would
> anyone want it running in the first place?
>
> I started to do this, but got confused by the 'radio buttons' term. On
> my general tab, I have 5 items that I can check or uncheck. The first
> 4 items are squares, the last item is a round check box.
>
> From top to bottom, they are:
>
> process system.ini
> process win.ini
> load system services
> load startup items
> use original boot.ini
>
> When you say that I should check the last 3 radio buttons, do you mean
> that process system.ini and process win.ini should be unchecked? And
> that load system services, load startup items and use original
> boot.ini should be checked?
>
> Please confirm.
>
>
>>Then, you can, instead of having 'Windows Choose what's best, you can of
>>course, change that to your preferences. Turn off screensavers, etc.
>>
>>The blank item is not to worry about. If it bothers you, as the ones that
>>I
>>had bothered me, you can clear them entirely.
>>go to Start>run> type in regedit
>>
>>Navigate to Hkey_local>Software>Microsoft>msconfig>startupreg. Highlight
>>that folder, and expand it. There you will see a list of all unused
>>entries. You can delete them by right clicking that folder and deleting.
>>
>>As far as the X-tras, you can eliminate many by going to add/remove
>>windows
>>components.
>>
>>I keep I.E. strictly for updates as it's needed in order to get them, and
>>I
>>use Firefox as my browser...works great.
>>
>>
>
> OK, we ran Netscape until we heard it was purchased by AOL. The first
> AOL version of Netscape we got was a disaster, and we dumped Netscape
> for that reason and VERY RELUCTANTLY switched to IE. My feelings about
> AOL are quite similar to my feelings about Microsoft.....'nuff said:>:
>
> If there is another alternative, I'd run it.
>
> But, some of Bill's programs require you to use IE-and I DON'T like
> that. I really want it off my drive to start with along with it's
> defaulted to 'on' security risks. I've been to several sites in the
> last week that told me I needed activeX enabled. I left them all
> without going any further, any website that requires activeX is
> definately not OK with me. Been there, done that-don't want any part
> of that crap.
>
> I'm also going to dump the Media Player. I have no interest in the
> internet lookups it does or seeing album covers for mp3's that I have.
> We dumped all Real Player programs several years back when they got
> caught red handed downloading music and video lists of files played
> though the software. Figured I didn't need any software that did any
> of that crap, especially without telling me.
>
>
>>igfxtray----- igfxtray.exe is a process which allows you to access access
>>the Intel Graphics configuration and diagnostic application for the Intel
>>810 series graphics chipset. This program is a non-essential system
>>process,
>>and is installed for ease of use via the desktop tray.
>>
>
> OK, but we will add more ram, and eventually want to go to a higher
> resolution on the laptops display. If we want to change the display's
> resolution, we would probably need to enable this??? Or, does the
> windows OS call this program if needed and start it if it's needed to
> change the monitors resolution?
>
>>> hkcmd---- hkcmd.exe is installed alongside Intel multimedia devices and
>>> allows configuration and diagnostic options for these devices. This
>>> program is non-essential process to the running of the system, but
>>> should
>>> not be terminated unless suspected to be causing problems
>>> syntplpr (norton) I don't think this is Norton, I think it's Synapics
>>> touchpad... syntplpr.exe is a process installed alongside the Synaptics
>>> TouchPad for laptop computer touchpads. It provides additional
>>> configurations and support. This program is a non-essential process, and
>>> is installed for ease of use.
>
>>> syntpenh (norton)---Same, touchpad.... syntpenh.exe is a process
>>> installed
>>> alongside the Synaptics TouchPad for laptop computer touchpads. Provides
>>> additional configurations and support, and is essential on some machines
>>> for the functioning of this input device. This program is a
>>> non-essential
>>> system process, but should not be terminated unless suspected to be
>>> causing problems.
>
> OK, I use an optical mouse connected to the expansion USB port in my
> outboard KB. The mouse works great and the low throughput of the KB
> USB ports is not a problem. Since I don't use the stock synaptics
> touch pad or the buttons associated with it, do I need to have this?
>
> Also, if I should want to take the laptop with me and use it as a
> portable device, would I have to enable this in order to have the
> stock touchpad function?
>
>
>>> dadapp (dell)programmable keys.. dadapp.exe is a part of the Dell
>>> AccessDirect Applet. Implements the Dell programmable keys on your Dell
>>> laptop. Alsi installs an icon on your system tray (DadTray). This
>>> program
>>> is a non-essential system process, but should not be terminated unless
>>> suspected to be causing problems
>>> tfswctrl --- Process File: tfswctrl or tfswctrl.exe
>>Process Name: HP DLA Packet Writing Software
>>
>>Description:
>>tfswctrl.exe is an essential process for HP's packet writing software
>>which
>>burns data to CD's using Microsoft Windows explorer. This program is a
>>non-essential system process, but should not be terminated unless
>>suspected
>>to be causing problems.
>>> dsentry.......
>>dsentry - dsentry.exe - Process Information
>>Process File: dsentry or dsentry.exe
>>Process Name: Dell DVD Sentry
>>
>>Description:
>>dsentry.exe is an application provided by Dell. It stops the autorun
>>application from executing on disc insertion. This is a non-essential
>>process. Disabling or enabling this is down to user preferenc
>>
>>
>>> sgtray.....
>>
>> sgtray - sgtray.exe - Process Information
>>
>>Process File: sgtray or sgtray.exe
>>Process Name: VERITAS StorageGuard Tray Application
>>
>>Description:
>>sgtray.exe is a utility from VERITAS Software Corporation which installs
>>itself on the system tray bar, and serves to remind you to backup your
>>files. This is a non-essential process. Disabling or enabling this is down
>>to user preference
>
> I've never seen a warning anything like this. We tend to keep
> nonessential information on the PC and anything essential is archived
> on burned CD's every so often. The result being that we would still
> have essential data if the hard drive blew up without warning one day.
> Our data is protected and the computers contents are expendable.
>
> This is a prime example of the type of software that I despise,
> especially since it was put there without telling me. I don't need it,
> don't want it, wouldn't use it and appreciate that you told me about
> it.otherwise i never would have known:>:
>>
>>
>>> bcmsmmsg.....part of voice command modem... BCMSMMsg.exe is a vital
>>> component of the BCM voice modem drivers. This process is needed to
>>> ensure
>>> that your BCM modem works properly.
>>
>>
> OK, we have DSL and our outboard DSL modem connects directly into the
> NIC card. Since I will probably never use the internal 56 K modem, is
> this item totally un-necessary?
>>>
>>
>>
>>> blank line, has no name or command column entry, it is in the run
>>> folder, same location as all the above items.
>>
>>
>>> cfgwiz....http://startup.iamnotageek.com/srch-cfgwiz.exe.html 9 copy
>>> and
>>> paste this in your browser)
>
> I'll check this one out, thanks.
>
> Still need to know about the radio buttons asked about at the
> beginning of this message. Thanks fso much for taking hte time to
> write all of this-I feel so much better knowing what all those startup
> items do!
>
> Regards,
>
> T
>


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