Re: Can't find message

Hi Pete,

Most people accuse me of being a gentleman and a scoundrel. :-)

Most of it was copied and pasted from other posts I've written. I learned a
while ago to save anything that looked like it might be useful again. No
sense in typing the same thing over and over.

What kind of engineer?

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:uM83bT7jFHA.3960@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Pete <petesworkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
> Wes...Thank you so much for the most comprehensive response I have ever
> received. You are a gentleman and a scholar, and if you don't understand
> all the stuff about the TIF folder, and "being a shell folder with its own
> GUID", I don't have a chance (lol). You are a smart guy (like I have
> said), and you did not waste your time writing all this, and I certainly
> appreciate it, and have already copied it to my hard drive, via my "old
> inbox" (you wouldn't believe all the messages I have in there - lol), and
> you ought to see my favorite places (full of medical info).
>
> I am a technical person and a retired engineer, and I find everything you
> wrote below very interesting and informative. I won't have to write the
> long post I was going to write now (on the Content.IE5 folder). I will
> start a new thread like you said for further comments. Thanks...Pete
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:erUlWByjFHA.3144@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Hi Pete,
>>
>> Content.IE5 is not visible from Windows Explorer, it doesn't matter what
>> settings you have set, you have to sneak up on it.
>>
>> According to PA Bear and Frank Saunders, "Smoke and mirrors."
>>
>> Temporary Internet Files folder is a Virtual Folder and a Namespace
>> object.
>> Has something to do with being a shell folder with its own GUID. I don't
>> understand half of this. Anyway, moving along.
>>
>> Temporary Internet Files folders are Special Folders, like My Documents,
>> My
>> Music, My Computer, Recycle Bin, et cetera. Part of what makes them
>> special
>> is the GUID or Globally Unique Identifier. These are found in the
>> registry,
>> where the GUID is the identifier for the special folder. They are found
>> here: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID. The GUID for Temporary Internet Files is
>> {7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}.
>>
>> Part of this is because of the desktop.ini file.
>>
>> Most Temporary Internet Files folders are Hidden and classified as system
>> files. They are hidden from Windows Explorer and Search. The device
>> used to hide them is the desktop.ini file. The desktop.ini signals that
>> they are
>> system files, hidden and if deleted, they are recreated on the next boot.
>> To find them, you have to discover them by accident or know where to
>> look.
>>
>> The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file system
>> folder
>> will be viewed and handled.
>>
>> Some info on Desktop.ini files pieced together from many sources...
>>
>> File system folders are commonly displayed with a standard icon and set
>> of properties, which specify, for instance, whether or not the folder is
>> shared. The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file
>> system folder will be viewed and handled. The most common use of the
>> Desktop.ini file is to assign a custom icon to a folder.
>>
>> The desktop.ini can have info that lists the folder as a system file,
>> hidden
>> and if deleted, it is recreated on the next boot. The desktop.ini can
>> also
>> have info like a UICLSID line that hides the folder in Windows Explorer.
>> And
>> a CLSID line that disables the Search utility from searching through the
>> folder.
>>
>> Also the folder name info can be listed in the desktop.ini. For example,
>> the folder Shared Documents becomes just Documents if you remove the
>> desktop.ini.
>> -----
>>
>> I have a shortcut to Content.IE5.
>> C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>> -----
>>
>> To view:
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>>
>> Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
>> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
>> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
>> General tab | Settings button | View Files button
>>
>> Or...
>>
>> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>>
>> paste %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>>
>> Click OK.
>>
>> To view:
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5 AND \Content.MSO
>>
>> Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr | OK | Highlight Temporary Internet
>> Files
>>>
>> View Files button
>>
>> Or...
>>
>> Start | Run | Type: %tmp% | OK |
>>
>> You will probably have to click the Folders button on the Tool Bar.
>> Click: [+] Temporary Internet Files
>> Click: [+] Content.IE5
>> Click: Random named folders
>> View
>> You can also view Content.MSO
>>
>> Or...
>>
>> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>>
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>>
>> Click OK.
>> You can also view Content.MSO
>>
>> Or...
>> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>>
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO
>>
>> Click OK.
>>
>> Note: Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe) will *not* clean:
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5
>>
>> I don't know why you can view the Content.IE5 folder with Disk Cleanup
>> but it won't clean the folder.
>>
>> According to David Candy, this isn't true. This has to do with...
>> Safely delete access time stored here (7 is days):
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
>> Explorer\VolumeCaches\Temporary Files\
>> Value Name: LastAccess
>> Value Type: REG_DWORD
>> Value Data: 7
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned 7 days is too long. I suppose I could change it
>> to
>> 1, but I'm not worried about it, because I use Disk Cleaner.
>>
>> Clear the Temporary Internet Files using the Windows XP Disk Cleanup
>> utility
>> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/clearxptif.htm
>>
>> -----
>>
>> I use Disk Cleaner to clean out most everything on my machine along with
>> a batch file or two.
>>
>> I have Disk Cleaner set to run quiet at startup. Runs for 5 seconds or
>> so and exits. I also like the fact that, after you set it up, it cleans
>> all the following with one click (and/or automatically at boot). Makes
>> XP's Disk Cleanup look like a piker. XP's Disk Cleanup will *not* clean
>> Content.IE5.
>>
>> Disk Cleaner will Clean:
>> Temporary Internet Files {Including the contents of the Content.IE5
>> folder}
>> Internet Cookies
>> Internet History
>> System Temporary Folder
>> Recent Documents
>> Run... Dialog List
>> Find Document List
>> Find Computer List
>> URLs in IE Address Bar
>> URLs in Shell Address Bar
>> Media Player Recent URLs
>> WinZip Recent Files
>> WinZip Extract To Folders
>> Paint Recent Files
>> WordPad Recent Files
>> Cleans Recycle Bin (what else?)
>> Opera Cache
>> Opera Cookies
>> Opera History
>> Opera Visited links
>> Opera Download History and Download folder
>> Firefox Cache
>> Firefox Cookies
>> Firefox History
>>
>> Disk Cleaner
>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~mp2004/
>>
>> -----
>>
>> To clean out *all* Temporary Internet Files.....
>> 1) Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
>> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
>> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
>> Best to do this with all instances of Internet Explorer closed.
>> Especially
>> if there are a large number of files.
>> 2) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on Delete Files
>> 3) Check the box ? Delete all offline content {This cleans >>
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files AND
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>> 4) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it deletes
>> the
>> temporary internet files
>> 5) You can now click on Delete Cookies and click OK to delete cookies
>> that websites have placed on your hard drive.
>>
>> If you want, try this: Open IE | Tools | Internet Options | Advanced tab
>>>
>> scroll down to the bottom | check: Empty Temporary Internet Files folder
>> when browser is closed | click Apply | OK. Entirely up to you, but if
>> you want to be rid of this, it is done automatically. Deletes the
>> content of %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files but not the Content.IE5 or Content.MSO folders.
>>
>> Also: Start IE | Tools | Internet Options | General tab | Days to keep
>> pages in history: 0 | Apply | OK.
>> -----
>>
>> Even with all this cleaned out
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>> can still show that it is pretty good sized.
>>
>> I just cleaned mine and it is 224 KB. That's because the index.dat file
>> is
>> 224 KB.
>>
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
>>
>> I use a batch file to delete that index.dat file when I reboot.
>>
>> Side note:
>> Most index.dat files get recreated if they are deleted.
>>
>> %windir%\PCHealth\HelpCtr\OfflineCache\index.dat.
>>
>> This index.dat does not get recreated. The loss of this particular file
>> will
>> cripple System Information (msinfo32.exe). This index.dat actually does
>> something besides growing to a huge size.
>> -----
>>
>> Content.IE5 contains all kinds of things. Files generated by Help and
>> Support Center and Outlook Express, for example.
>>
>> [[Note: when viewing Newsgroup messages Outlook Express dumps a series of
>> zero-byte files into the TIF. When Outlook Express is closed it fails to
>> cleanup these files. To delete these zero-byte files you must select the
>> option "Delete all offline files".]]
>>
>> From...
>> Internet Explorer Tips and Tricks
>> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ietips.htm
>>
>> [[Outlook Express 5.5 and 6 place a zero byte file in TIF for every
>> message
>> that you read. These files are only visible from Start | Find | Files or
>> Folders, not from Windows Explorer. ]]
>>
>> [[The easy way to get rid of them if you use OE 5.5 or 6 is to open
>> Internet
>> Explorer and go to Tools | Internet Options. In the Temporary Internet
>> Files
>> Section choose "Delete files". In the next dialogue check the box for
>> "Delete all offline content" and click "OK".]]
>>
>> From...
>> CA* files in TIF
>> http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/CA.htm
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Outlook Express creates a zero byte file for every message read. Plus
>> wbk**.tmp files when messages are read. Plus wbk**.tmp files when you
>> Save
>> a message that you're working on, every time you hit Save.
>>
>> The zero byte files have names like [1] or [14]. The files are created
>> in Content.IE5 subfolders.
>>
>> Examples...
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\1EXPNXVB\[14]
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\[54]
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\LJTLPTXJ\[25]
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\NU1KF7TX\[12]
>>
>> The wbk**.tmp files have names like wbk118.tmp or wbkE5.tmp The files are
>> created in Content.IE5 subfolders.
>>
>> Examples...
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbk118.tmp
>> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbkC1.tmp
>> -----
>>
>> Once in a while you see posts by real Microsoft employees.
>>
>> Nobody will fess up to nominating me. I asked my lead and I asked
>> around.
>>
>> I belong to some private MVP lists and once in a while I see someone
>> asking
>> if nominating so-and-so is a good idea and does anyone disagree.
>> Microsoft
>> also has people that monitor the newsgroups and they nominate people
>> also. -----
>>
>> Well this post is 11KB, I hope I covered everything. If not, Start a new
>> thread.
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:O4FAioijFHA.3316@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>> Pete <petesworkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
>>> Thanks Wes...see inline comments below...Pete
>>>
>>> Well, thank you for reading my post. I have some good ones coming up
>>> that I think may interest you. One of them is on the "dreaded"
>>> invisible (and I have show hidden files checked, and hide protected
>>> system files unchecked) folder "content.ie5" (its one of seven folders
>>> with the same title - the other six visible), and it has a lot of crap
>>> in 8 subfolders that I consider useless). I have XPsp2, home edition.
>>>
>>> I stumbled on to it by accident by right clicking its parent folder
>>> (TIF's - which was empty after clearing cache), and I did a properties
>>> and saw 10 subfolders and a whole bunch of files, and said HUH? My
>>> Irfan thumbnails will show it in it's directory tree, but windows
>>> explorer won't (another Bill Gates first - lol - microsoft likes to
>>> hide stuff). It was visible in millenium, but not in XP. The only way
>>> you can get it to show in windows explorer is to type its full path
>>> name in the address bar. It is quite involved, and I struck out in
>>> another site. It will take me some time to compose my post since I ran
>>> out of steam with the other group, but it will be coming. Damn it, I
>>> didn't want to start explaining it here...Pete
>>>
>>>
>>> Wes...Do the microsoft people ever respond to the posts...Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yours is older (lol).
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wes...I was a little familiar with the MS-MVP's, and went to the site
>>> you provided. Could you tell me a little more about the nominations
>>> (eg who nominated you). Who usually makes the nominations - the
>>> nominee's peers or microsoft (via monitoring newsgroups - I
>>> assume)...Pete
>>>
>>
>> <snip>

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