Re: Can't find message

Wes...Thank you so much for the most comprehensive response I have ever
received. You are a gentleman and a scholar, and if you don't understand
all the stuff about the TIF folder, and "being a shell folder with its own
GUID", I don't have a chance (lol). You are a smart guy (like I have said),
and you did not waste your time writing all this, and I certainly appreciate
it, and have already copied it to my hard drive, via my "old inbox" (you
wouldn't believe all the messages I have in there - lol), and you ought to
see my favorite places (full of medical info).

I am a technical person and a retired engineer, and I find everything you
wrote below very interesting and informative. I won't have to write the
long post I was going to write now (on the Content.IE5 folder). I will
start a new thread like you said for further comments. Thanks...Pete

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:erUlWByjFHA.3144@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi Pete,
>
> Content.IE5 is not visible from Windows Explorer, it doesn't matter what
> settings you have set, you have to sneak up on it.
>
> According to PA Bear and Frank Saunders, "Smoke and mirrors."
>
> Temporary Internet Files folder is a Virtual Folder and a Namespace
> object.
> Has something to do with being a shell folder with its own GUID. I don't
> understand half of this. Anyway, moving along.
>
> Temporary Internet Files folders are Special Folders, like My Documents,
> My
> Music, My Computer, Recycle Bin, et cetera. Part of what makes them
> special
> is the GUID or Globally Unique Identifier. These are found in the
> registry,
> where the GUID is the identifier for the special folder. They are found
> here: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID. The GUID for Temporary Internet Files is
> {7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}.
>
> Part of this is because of the desktop.ini file.
>
> Most Temporary Internet Files folders are Hidden and classified as system
> files. They are hidden from Windows Explorer and Search. The device used
> to hide them is the desktop.ini file. The desktop.ini signals that they
> are
> system files, hidden and if deleted, they are recreated on the next boot.
> To find them, you have to discover them by accident or know where to look.
>
> The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file system
> folder
> will be viewed and handled.
>
> Some info on Desktop.ini files pieced together from many sources...
>
> File system folders are commonly displayed with a standard icon and set of
> properties, which specify, for instance, whether or not the folder is
> shared. The Desktop.ini file is a text file that specifies how a file
> system folder will be viewed and handled. The most common use of the
> Desktop.ini file is to assign a custom icon to a folder.
>
> The desktop.ini can have info that lists the folder as a system file,
> hidden
> and if deleted, it is recreated on the next boot. The desktop.ini can
> also
> have info like a UICLSID line that hides the folder in Windows Explorer.
> And
> a CLSID line that disables the Search utility from searching through the
> folder.
>
> Also the folder name info can be listed in the desktop.ini. For example,
> the folder Shared Documents becomes just Documents if you remove the
> desktop.ini.
> -----
>
> I have a shortcut to Content.IE5.
> C:\DOCUME~1\WESLEY~1.VOG\LOCALS~1\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
> -----
>
> To view:
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>
> Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
> General tab | Settings button | View Files button
>
> Or...
>
> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>
> paste %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>
> Click OK.
>
> To view:
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5 AND \Content.MSO
>
> Start | Run | Type: cleanmgr | OK | Highlight Temporary Internet Files
> |
> View Files button
>
> Or...
>
> Start | Run | Type: %tmp% | OK |
>
> You will probably have to click the Folders button on the Tool Bar.
> Click: [+] Temporary Internet Files
> Click: [+] Content.IE5
> Click: Random named folders
> View
> You can also view Content.MSO
>
> Or...
>
> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
>
> Click OK.
> You can also view Content.MSO
>
> Or...
> Start | Run | Paste this in the box:
>
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO
>
> Click OK.
>
> Note: Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe) will *not* clean:
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5
>
> I don't know why you can view the Content.IE5 folder with Disk Cleanup but
> it won't clean the folder.
>
> According to David Candy, this isn't true. This has to do with...
> Safely delete access time stored here (7 is days):
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
> Explorer\VolumeCaches\Temporary Files\
> Value Name: LastAccess
> Value Type: REG_DWORD
> Value Data: 7
>
> As far as I'm concerned 7 days is too long. I suppose I could change it
> to
> 1, but I'm not worried about it, because I use Disk Cleaner.
>
> Clear the Temporary Internet Files using the Windows XP Disk Cleanup
> utility
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/clearxptif.htm
>
> -----
>
> I use Disk Cleaner to clean out most everything on my machine along with a
> batch file or two.
>
> I have Disk Cleaner set to run quiet at startup. Runs for 5 seconds or so
> and exits. I also like the fact that, after you set it up, it cleans all
> the following with one click (and/or automatically at boot). Makes XP's
> Disk Cleanup look like a piker. XP's Disk Cleanup will *not* clean
> Content.IE5.
>
> Disk Cleaner will Clean:
> Temporary Internet Files {Including the contents of the Content.IE5
> folder}
> Internet Cookies
> Internet History
> System Temporary Folder
> Recent Documents
> Run... Dialog List
> Find Document List
> Find Computer List
> URLs in IE Address Bar
> URLs in Shell Address Bar
> Media Player Recent URLs
> WinZip Recent Files
> WinZip Extract To Folders
> Paint Recent Files
> WordPad Recent Files
> Cleans Recycle Bin (what else?)
> Opera Cache
> Opera Cookies
> Opera History
> Opera Visited links
> Opera Download History and Download folder
> Firefox Cache
> Firefox Cookies
> Firefox History
>
> Disk Cleaner
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~mp2004/
>
> -----
>
> To clean out *all* Temporary Internet Files.....
> 1) Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
> Best to do this with all instances of Internet Explorer closed.
> Especially
> if there are a large number of files.
> 2) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on Delete Files
> 3) Check the box ? Delete all offline content {This cleans >>
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files AND
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
> 4) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it deletes
> the
> temporary internet files
> 5) You can now click on Delete Cookies and click OK to delete cookies that
> websites have placed on your hard drive.
>
> If you want, try this: Open IE | Tools | Internet Options | Advanced tab
> |
> scroll down to the bottom | check: Empty Temporary Internet Files folder
> when browser is closed | click Apply | OK. Entirely up to you, but if you
> want to be rid of this, it is done automatically. Deletes the content of
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files but not the Content.IE5 or Content.MSO folders.
>
> Also: Start IE | Tools | Internet Options | General tab | Days to keep
> pages in history: 0 | Apply | OK.
> -----
>
> Even with all this cleaned out
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
> can still show that it is pretty good sized.
>
> I just cleaned mine and it is 224 KB. That's because the index.dat file
> is
> 224 KB.
>
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
>
> I use a batch file to delete that index.dat file when I reboot.
>
> Side note:
> Most index.dat files get recreated if they are deleted.
>
> %windir%\PCHealth\HelpCtr\OfflineCache\index.dat.
>
> This index.dat does not get recreated. The loss of this particular file
> will
> cripple System Information (msinfo32.exe). This index.dat actually does
> something besides growing to a huge size.
> -----
>
> Content.IE5 contains all kinds of things. Files generated by Help and
> Support Center and Outlook Express, for example.
>
> [[Note: when viewing Newsgroup messages Outlook Express dumps a series of
> zero-byte files into the TIF. When Outlook Express is closed it fails to
> cleanup these files. To delete these zero-byte files you must select the
> option "Delete all offline files".]]
>
> From...
> Internet Explorer Tips and Tricks
> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ietips.htm
>
> [[Outlook Express 5.5 and 6 place a zero byte file in TIF for every
> message
> that you read. These files are only visible from Start | Find | Files or
> Folders, not from Windows Explorer. ]]
>
> [[The easy way to get rid of them if you use OE 5.5 or 6 is to open
> Internet
> Explorer and go to Tools | Internet Options. In the Temporary Internet
> Files
> Section choose "Delete files". In the next dialogue check the box for
> "Delete all offline content" and click "OK".]]
>
> From...
> CA* files in TIF
> http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/CA.htm
>
> -----
>
> Outlook Express creates a zero byte file for every message read. Plus
> wbk**.tmp files when messages are read. Plus wbk**.tmp files when you
> Save
> a message that you're working on, every time you hit Save.
>
> The zero byte files have names like [1] or [14]. The files are created in
> Content.IE5 subfolders.
>
> Examples...
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\1EXPNXVB\[14]
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\[54]
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\LJTLPTXJ\[25]
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\NU1KF7TX\[12]
>
> The wbk**.tmp files have names like wbk118.tmp or wbkE5.tmp The files are
> created in Content.IE5 subfolders.
>
> Examples...
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbk118.tmp
> %homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\GC1GM403\wbkC1.tmp
> -----
>
> Once in a while you see posts by real Microsoft employees.
>
> Nobody will fess up to nominating me. I asked my lead and I asked around.
>
> I belong to some private MVP lists and once in a while I see someone
> asking
> if nominating so-and-so is a good idea and does anyone disagree.
> Microsoft
> also has people that monitor the newsgroups and they nominate people also.
> -----
>
> Well this post is 11KB, I hope I covered everything. If not, Start a new
> thread.
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:O4FAioijFHA.3316@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> Pete <petesworkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
>> Thanks Wes...see inline comments below...Pete
>>
>> Well, thank you for reading my post. I have some good ones coming up
>> that I think may interest you. One of them is on the "dreaded" invisible
>> (and I have show hidden files checked, and hide protected system files
>> unchecked) folder "content.ie5" (its one of seven folders with the same
>> title - the other six visible), and it has a lot of crap in 8 subfolders
>> that I consider useless). I have XPsp2, home edition.
>>
>> I stumbled on to it by accident by right clicking its parent folder
>> (TIF's - which was empty after clearing cache), and I did a properties
>> and saw 10 subfolders and a whole bunch of files, and said HUH? My Irfan
>> thumbnails will show it in it's directory tree, but windows explorer
>> won't (another Bill Gates first - lol - microsoft likes to hide stuff).
>> It was visible in millenium, but not in XP. The only way you can get it
>> to show in windows explorer is to type its full path name in the address
>> bar. It is quite involved, and I struck out in another site. It will
>> take me some time to compose my post since I ran out of steam with the
>> other group, but it will be coming. Damn it, I didn't want to start
>> explaining it here...Pete
>>
>>
>> Wes...Do the microsoft people ever respond to the posts...Pete
>>
>>
>>
>> Yours is older (lol).
>>
>>>
>>
>> Wes...I was a little familiar with the MS-MVP's, and went to the site you
>> provided. Could you tell me a little more about the nominations (eg who
>> nominated you). Who usually makes the nominations - the nominee's peers
>> or microsoft (via monitoring newsgroups - I assume)...Pete
>>
>
> <snip>
>


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