Re: JEINT EVERYTHING

"NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
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> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*o*m> wrote in message
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>> "NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*o*m> wrote in message
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>>>> "Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:
>>>>>> "NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> First, do whatever you have to do to get enough money to go back and
>>>>>>> get at least a 6th grade education. That way, you will be able to
>>>>>>> spell correctly and have a working knowledge of punctuation. I am
>>>>>>> old enough to remember that the American education system would not
>>>>>>> allow someone with your limited functionality graduate. It is
>>>>>>> indeed sad that you can present yourself in such a public forum in
>>>>>>> the fashion that you have and not feel any embarrassment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's your language. Learn to use it properly. Your post makes you
>>>>>>> look ignorant.
>>>>>>> How can you expect to make anything of yourself when you present
>>>>>>> yourself in such a negative way?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tire of seeing posts like yours...horrendous spelling, lack of
>>>>>>> punctuation and lacking the proper use of grammar or
>>>>>>> contractions/abbreviations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope you don't "axe" any more questions here. It's embarrassing
>>>>>>> for us to read it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now go put you baseball cap on at some weird angle, drop the
>>>>>>> waistband of your pants to mid-thigh, and walk around like you have
>>>>>>> some strange muscular disease. That will complete the image of
>>>>>>> yourself that you have projected here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bobby
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (It's my OPINION. You don't have to like it. You don't have to
>>>>>>> agree with it. You don't have to read it. But at least the words
>>>>>>> are spelled correctly).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a literacy test needed to purchase a computer now?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but there damned well should be! If people post to a group where
>>>>> the language is English then they should expect to be criticised if
>>>>> their posts make no sense whatsoever. If English wasn't his language,
>>>>> then he should have said so or, better yet, posted to a group in his
>>>>> native language (which, seeing as he's in Canada, could possibly be
>>>>> French). He could have searched the group for five seconds seen all
>>>>> these posts in a language that wasn't his own and gone to find a group
>>>>> that was - his problem not ours. If he wants to post in an
>>>>> English-speaking group he should post in a manner that would render
>>>>> his posts understood. If he does not, or cannot, do so, then he will
>>>>> be ridiculed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you feel you are somehow superior because you had a better
>>>>> education?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. To have a poor command of one's own native tongue shows ignorance
>>>>> and stupidity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Travel the world a bit. You'll find there are a great deal of
>>>>>> intelligent people who haven't had the opportunity to receive a
>>>>>> decent education.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I disagree. The OP is obviously literate because he managed to
>>>>> find this group and post. Therefore, his intelligence has to be called
>>>>> into question. He's either retarded or lazy, and I know which my
>>>>> money's on. He's probably sent to a perfectly good school, but he
>>>>> spends all his time hanging out at the shopping centre with his,
>>>>> equally illiterate, friends. You know one of the major causes of
>>>>> literacy degredation in the world? SMS. Kids are so used to wrtng lke
>>>>> ths wth no vwls tht thy 4get tht thy xst. They may learn to write
>>>>> properly, but then they become lazy because of their mobiles.
>>>>>
>>>>> The OP's IP puts him in western Canada but that
>>>>>> doesn't mean that is their country of origin. For whatever reason the
>>>>>> OP has a problem with communication you don't have the right to
>>>>>> marginalize them in some misguided attempt to prove your superiority.
>>>>>
>>>>> They should post to a group in their native language then. They post
>>>>> here - yes we do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> In memory of MS MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't like the current trend to abbreviating the English language
>>>> either. That doesn't give anyone the right to automatically assume
>>>> someone who does so is mentally challenged. Language evolves. Try
>>>> listening to some Chaucer read the way it was spoken in his lifetime.
>>>> Read A Clockwork Orange. Travel to England and listen to many of the
>>>> different ways English can be spoken. I deplore the way English is
>>>> taught in our school systems but that is not the fault of the students.
>>>> Just because we have a rather homogenous version of English here in
>>>> North America don't make it necessarily right :-)
>>>>
>>>> These newsgroups are about helping people, not criticising their
>>>> language skills. The OP asked a question. If you don't know the answer
>>>> move on.
>>>>
>>>> Kerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Kerry;
>>>
>>> I cannot believe that you would use Chaucer or Kubrick to defend the
>>> OP. If you truly understood what Chaucer and Kubrick wrote, you would
>>> understand that they were condemning the exact same thing that the OP
>>> was doing. I suggest you read Clockwork Orange again. You will see the
>>> metaphor for what is happening today. Many great minds have grappled
>>> with this problem...Shakespeare, Orwell, Ovid. To list them all would
>>> be time consuming. The point is that the OP is lazy and presents
>>> himself in a fashion that we as a society should not condone.
>>>
>>
>> We obviously differ on our interpetation of A Clockwork Orange, which was
>> written by Anthony Burgess. He was a noted amateur linguist who also
>> wrote many essays on how languages evolve. Kubrick made a very good movie
>> based on his book. The movie is often interpeted differently from the
>> book. I was using Chaucer as an example of how English has evolved over
>> the years. There are recordings of modern day scholars reading his work
>> as they think it sounded in his time. It sounds more like German than
>> English and takes several listenings to understand it.
>>
>>> In the end, I guess we will merely have to agree to disagree. I can
>>> never support the liberal agenda,...I love this wonderful country too
>>> much to allow that.
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Your country has nothing to do with language and how it evolves. The
>> liberal agenda has nothing to do with language. How many Spanish words
>> are now in generally accepted as correct American English? Your
>> prejudices are showing. If you read my post you would realise that I
>> don't like the way English is evolving either. I agree with your other
>> post that the North American education system is deplorable. I also agree
>> with your assessment that the OP is restricting his employment options by
>> using the English language this way. All this has nothing to do with the
>> OP's question. Berating someone in a public forum on the basis of you not
>> liking the way they use English is childish.
>>
>> Kerry
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>>
> The point you should understand is that we have to start somewhere. If we
> hope to correct the problems that allow our children to enter society in
> such a disgusting sate as the OP, then we cannot allow it on *ANY* level.
> The liberal agenda has everything to do with it. The liberal agenda tells
> parents not to correct their children...not to teach children that they
> are part of a society and there are norms and expectations that must be
> met. The liberal agenda says "Don't scold your child ... you'll scar his
> psyche". They say "Don't spank your child...you'll damage him
> psychologically". It is all BS. We turn little ignorant tyrants loose on
> the society that have no concept of what it means to be a part of a
> society...they think they can do and act as they please. Someone,
> somewhere, sometime has to be adult enough, strong enough and brave enough
> to say it's wrong to allow these little cretins to act and be they way
> they are.
>
> I have been fortunate to raise three wonderful children...a
> Veterinarian, an Engineer who is designing air and spacecraft, and a very
> talented Mathematician. I would not allow them to be lazy. I did not
> demand miracles from them, I merely required that they apply themselves to
> their studies and not waste the opportunity that an education could afford
> them. Not only did they not waste the opportunity, they embraced it. As a
> result, they are now giving back to the society which gave them the
> opportunity to achieve. The OP obviously has squandered what investment
> society made in him, and deserves to be taken to task for it. He is not
> incapable of coherent communication, just too lazy to do so. We do not
> have to accept laziness. We owe it to those who are like the OP to do
> whatever we can to bring them up to a level where they are at least not a
> drain on society.
>
> As a side question, with no intent of offending you, Kerry; how would you
> feel if one of your children posted the original thread? If you do not
> have children, what if was your brother, or you father? Would it bother
> you that everyone who read his post would come to the conclusion that he
> was an idiot? Would you in that case discuss it with them in hopes of
> helping? I pointed it out so that the OP would know how poorly he
> projected himself, and the lack of respect that his post would garner. If
> he for even a moment was offended enough to consider trying to not post
> such garbage, then my post was not in vain (from my viewpoint),
>
> Kerry, I wish we could sit and have coffee together...You seem like the
> kind of person who would enjoy a good debate without reducing it to
> tirades and insults. I respect your viewpoints, and hope that in turn you
> can at least seem the point I wish to make. The mere fact that you and I
> can continue this thread without fear of persecution is at least a hopeful
> sign. I fear we have digressed from the intent of my original post and
> that this thread should die.
>
> I look forward to your future postings.
>
> Bobby
>

I enjoy debating you as well. We don't agree but we respect each other's
opinion. That's what life in general should be about. If more people
practiced it the world would be a much better place.

As far as my children, I don't have any. My partner has three wonderful
young adult children and one grandson. I didn't know her at the time but
when they were growing up she was firm but never hit or belittled them. They
are excellent examples of how people should behave. Unfortunately, to my
dismay they use what I call MSN speak when writing casually. They are well
educated, have good jobs, and when writing essays for university are very
articulate. When writing casually on the internet they use MSN speak. It is
how languages work. Do you use thee and thou in your writing? What they are
doing is accepted as normal by their generation.

I don't agree there is an organized liberal agenda any more than an
organized conservative agenda. The vast majority of people are somewhere in
between. There are a few lunatics at either end of the spectrum who often
get quoted as spokespeople for the left or right but in reality no one pays
them much attention. At least that's how it works here in Canada. Things do
seem a little more polarised in the US.

Kerry


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