Re: ntfs, bootitng

"gp" <grum@invalid> wrote in message
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> good advice, there is way too much fooling around here and with all these
> settings I havent a clue what I am doing.
> Try to follow all these instructions, I woild have had it complete by now
> if I re-installed
> I will just back up my data on CD and simply re-install using ntfs......it
> souns so much simpler.
>

Sounds like a plan, good luck. Make sure you verify your backup before
formatting the drive.

Kerry

>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*o*m> wrote in message
> news:etSSrySUFHA.2056@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> "gp" <grum@invalid> wrote in message
>> news:42795e57$0$5178$afc38c87@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*o*m> wrote in message
>>> news:u82ddPLUFHA.2172@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> "gp" <grum@invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:4278c95d$0$4658$afc38c87@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> No
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats not what you need only, there are problems with just doing this.
>>>>> I had many responses here about thats not all you do. You get extra
>>>>> problems by not using bootitng.exe to change clusters
>>>>>
>>>>> I know about the convert command, that not what I am asking though
>>>>>
>>>>> "José Gallardo" <jogalb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uwqPGAKUFHA.3392@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To do what you want you only need this:
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;es;307881
>>>>>
>>>>> "gp" <grum@invalid> escribió en el mensaje
>>>>> news:4278b5c8$0$8122$afc38c87@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>i want to convert my fat32 winxp to ntfs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to do 2 things
>>>>>> 1)boot up with bootitng and create clusters
>>>>>> 2) run convert to get ntfs on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cant do step 1)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I downloaded the bootitng.zip file and create a bootable CD as
>>>>>> directions
>>>>>> say with nero6. This is to allocate clusters properly. before running
>>>>>> convert .....the only thing is it doesnt work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I create the bootable CD with bootitng.
>>>>>> I create and copy file bootitng.iso to cd and create bootable CD so
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> copies stuff from bootfloppy as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After creating the CD and reboot machine and get to a A> with no
>>>>>> floppy in
>>>>>> the drive, just the CD.............huh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how do I create the boot disk so bootitng will load on
>>>>>> rebooting.........
>>>>>> the instructions that came with didnt explain this well
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you should explain why you need bootitng. If we knew what you
>>>> are trying to accomplish someone may be able to help. What are the
>>>> extra problems you mention? I have converted many partitions to ntfs
>>>> without it and not experienced any problems.
>>>>
>>>> Kerry
>>>>
>>> I am being 2 different things here a lt me explain again why (this is
>>> what I was told earlier to covert to ntfs).
>>>
>>> There are two different things here. The first is aligning the partition
>>> prior to converting. The first is done (as was described in the link I
>>> initially sent you) by booting from a floppy created by the BootIT NG
>>> program. The purpose of doing this is so that when you run the convert
>>> program, the resulting cluster size will be 4k (which is optimal for
>>> performance). If you do not do this first step (and you don't have to,
>>> it's
>>> not essential), you will wind up with a cluster size of 512bytes. This
>>> is
>>> not the optimal cluster size, and performance may suffer. Once done, you
>>> will not be able to change this, so you need to consider whether or not
>>> you
>>> want to do this carefully.
>>>
>>> (this step didnt work that easy as my original message states)
>>>
>>> The second thing is the actual conversion process. This is done from the
>>> command prompt (click start/run and type cmd, then click ok). There is
>>> no
>>> fancy graphical user interface, nor is there any need for one. You do
>>> NOT
>>> need a bootable floppy or floppy drive for this part of the process. You
>>> simply type in "convert C: /fs:ntfs" (without the quotes) and hit
>>> <enter>.
>>> Then follow the prompts to schedule it to be done on a system restart,
>>> as
>>> you cannot dismount the drive while Windows is running. Then reboot the
>>> system - it's as simple as that. The process will occur automatically,
>>> and
>>> the delay in boot it causes will depend on several factors, but be
>>> prepared
>>> for a long wait.
>>>
>>> It is not that simple to just run convert by the sounds of it. The
>>> instructions to convert are hazy when you include the 1st step .
>>> I might simply reinstall everything...this sounds a lot simpler because
>>> all these 'boot up cd's' for step 1 is just too messy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> OK now it makes sense. Partition Magic can do this after the partition is
>> converted. It's not free but it is easy. See the following link for some
>> good info on reserving a contiguous area for the MFT
>>
>> http://redmondmag.com/columns/article.asp?EditorialsID=643
>>
>> Make sure you have a good backup before converting the partition. There
>> is always the possibility of data loss when doing things like this.
>> Personally I would just back up the partition, then recreate it and
>> format it as NTFS then restore the backup. This will create the MFT
>> properly and set the default cluster size. With all the steps needed to
>> create a contiguous MFT and then change the cluster size there is too
>> much chance of something going wrong. You need the backup anyway. It may
>> be quicker just to reformat and restore.
>>
>> I've never tried bootitng so I can't give you any advice on it. I'm not
>> very familiar with Nero. I don't have it on this computer and haven't
>> used it in awhile. I'm sure it can make a bootable CD but maybe someone
>> else will chime in with instructions.
>>
>> Kerry
>>
>>
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