Re: ntfs, bootitng
- From: "gp" <grum@invalid>
- Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:48:34 +1000
good advice, there is way too much fooling around here and with all these
settings I havent a clue what I am doing.
Try to follow all these instructions, I woild have had it complete by now if
I re-installed
I will just back up my data on CD and simply re-install using ntfs......it
souns so much simpler.
"Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*o*m> wrote in message
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> "gp" <grum@invalid> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*o*m> wrote in message
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>>> "gp" <grum@invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:4278c95d$0$4658$afc38c87@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> No
>>>>
>>>> Thats not what you need only, there are problems with just doing this.
>>>> I had many responses here about thats not all you do. You get extra
>>>> problems by not using bootitng.exe to change clusters
>>>>
>>>> I know about the convert command, that not what I am asking though
>>>>
>>>> "José Gallardo" <jogalb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:uwqPGAKUFHA.3392@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> To do what you want you only need this:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;es;307881
>>>>
>>>> "gp" <grum@invalid> escribió en el mensaje
>>>> news:4278b5c8$0$8122$afc38c87@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>i want to convert my fat32 winxp to ntfs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to do 2 things
>>>>> 1)boot up with bootitng and create clusters
>>>>> 2) run convert to get ntfs on
>>>>>
>>>>> I cant do step 1)
>>>>>
>>>>> I downloaded the bootitng.zip file and create a bootable CD as
>>>>> directions
>>>>> say with nero6. This is to allocate clusters properly. before running
>>>>> convert .....the only thing is it doesnt work
>>>>>
>>>>> How do I create the bootable CD with bootitng.
>>>>> I create and copy file bootitng.iso to cd and create bootable CD so it
>>>>> copies stuff from bootfloppy as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> After creating the CD and reboot machine and get to a A> with no
>>>>> floppy in
>>>>> the drive, just the CD.............huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> how do I create the boot disk so bootitng will load on
>>>>> rebooting.........
>>>>> the instructions that came with didnt explain this well
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps you should explain why you need bootitng. If we knew what you
>>> are trying to accomplish someone may be able to help. What are the extra
>>> problems you mention? I have converted many partitions to ntfs without
>>> it and not experienced any problems.
>>>
>>> Kerry
>>>
>> I am being 2 different things here a lt me explain again why (this is
>> what I was told earlier to covert to ntfs).
>>
>> There are two different things here. The first is aligning the partition
>> prior to converting. The first is done (as was described in the link I
>> initially sent you) by booting from a floppy created by the BootIT NG
>> program. The purpose of doing this is so that when you run the convert
>> program, the resulting cluster size will be 4k (which is optimal for
>> performance). If you do not do this first step (and you don't have to,
>> it's
>> not essential), you will wind up with a cluster size of 512bytes. This is
>> not the optimal cluster size, and performance may suffer. Once done, you
>> will not be able to change this, so you need to consider whether or not
>> you
>> want to do this carefully.
>>
>> (this step didnt work that easy as my original message states)
>>
>> The second thing is the actual conversion process. This is done from the
>> command prompt (click start/run and type cmd, then click ok). There is no
>> fancy graphical user interface, nor is there any need for one. You do NOT
>> need a bootable floppy or floppy drive for this part of the process. You
>> simply type in "convert C: /fs:ntfs" (without the quotes) and hit
>> <enter>.
>> Then follow the prompts to schedule it to be done on a system restart, as
>> you cannot dismount the drive while Windows is running. Then reboot the
>> system - it's as simple as that. The process will occur automatically,
>> and
>> the delay in boot it causes will depend on several factors, but be
>> prepared
>> for a long wait.
>>
>> It is not that simple to just run convert by the sounds of it. The
>> instructions to convert are hazy when you include the 1st step .
>> I might simply reinstall everything...this sounds a lot simpler because
>> all these 'boot up cd's' for step 1 is just too messy
>>
>>
>>
>
> OK now it makes sense. Partition Magic can do this after the partition is
> converted. It's not free but it is easy. See the following link for some
> good info on reserving a contiguous area for the MFT
>
> http://redmondmag.com/columns/article.asp?EditorialsID=643
>
> Make sure you have a good backup before converting the partition. There is
> always the possibility of data loss when doing things like this.
> Personally I would just back up the partition, then recreate it and format
> it as NTFS then restore the backup. This will create the MFT properly and
> set the default cluster size. With all the steps needed to create a
> contiguous MFT and then change the cluster size there is too much chance
> of something going wrong. You need the backup anyway. It may be quicker
> just to reformat and restore.
>
> I've never tried bootitng so I can't give you any advice on it. I'm not
> very familiar with Nero. I don't have it on this computer and haven't used
> it in awhile. I'm sure it can make a bootable CD but maybe someone else
> will chime in with instructions.
>
> Kerry
>
>
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