Re: Sort collating sequence
From: David Candy (.)
Date: 02/02/05
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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:16:19 +1100
It is sorting correctly. It is not ASCII.
The system's default behavior is to sort punctuation first, followed by numbers and letters.
-- ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.uscricket.com "VManes" <vmanes@N0SP&Mrap.midco.net> wrote in message news:JqOdnYCE-rMi953fRVn-3A@midco.net... > None of which answers the question of underscore being sorted out of any > commonly understood sequence. > > . > > *************************** > > "David Candy" <.> wrote in message > news:eqG3swNCFHA.400@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > Yes we do. > 1/ Sort is a win32 program > 2/ It uses two sorting modes - the sort mode of the user or another which I > don't know what it does. [Trying to find how locale affects sorting is very > difficult] > > /L[OCALE] locale Overrides the system default locale with > > > > the specified one. The ""C"" locale yields > > > > the fastest collating sequence and is > > > > currently the only alternative. The sort > > > > is always case insensitive. > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.uscricket.com > "VManes" <vmanes@N0SP&Mrap.midco.net> wrote in message > news:StadnYBBiZdn0Z3fRVn-oA@midco.net... >> The out of sequence use of the "_" character is probably a Microsoftism - >> this lets you force a directory (folder) or filename to be sorted before >> similar named ones in directory/folder views. I use this a lot to put a >> folder I want up front to be there, without having to give it a different >> name. >> >> Or, it's really and undocumented change to a minimally documented aspect >> of >> the sort.exe program. In the MS-DOS Encyclopedia (1988), "...with >> versions >> 3.0 and later, SORT assigns lowercase letters the same ASCII value as >> uppercase letters; hence, case is effectively ignored." >> Perhaps someone revised to code to treat uppercase by their lowercase >> equivalent? NO, I don't think it's that, because the underscore is also >> collated before digits, which is way out whack with ASCII. >> >> It's just an M$ thing - no one understands! >> >> Val >> >> *************************** >> >> "Bractals" <Bractals@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:FB38B31C-6B87-495D-812D-615C8CBA2E0B@microsoft.com... >> The following file segments were sorted with >> qsort.exe (an old DOS program) and Windows >> sort.exe program. Note that sort.exe has >> the underscore '_' before the letters 'C' >> and 'S'. This does not conform to ASCII. >> >> Qsort.exe Collating Sequence >> >> C:\DELL\ALERT\ >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0 \ >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\+CCC.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\+___.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\10675121.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\ALERT.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\OFFDELL.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\PRIVACYSEAL.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\PRIVACY_CONTENT.HTM >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\RELIABILITYSEAL.GIF >> >> Sort.exe Collating Sequence >> >> C:\DELL\ALERT\ >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0 \ >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\+___.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\+CCC.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\10675121.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\ALERT.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\OFFDELL.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\PRIVACY_CONTENT.HTM >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\PRIVACYSEAL.GIF >> C:\DELL\ALERT\0\RELIABILITYSEAL.GIF >> >> Bractals >> >> >> "VManes" wrote: >> >>> What makes you think it's not doing ASCII based sorting? Please provide >>> a >>> sample input and output, and point out what's wrong. >>> >>> val >>> -- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> www.sdsmt.edu >>> The best little engineering school you >>> may not have heard of, but should have! >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> "Bractals" <Bractals@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:96807CAA-10E4-4D2D-9E71-5001482C9DC0@microsoft.com... >>> I used the sort.exe command at the command prompt. The collating sequence >>> does not seem to conform to ASCII. Does anybody know how to force the >>> sort >>> command to conform to the ASCII collating sequence? >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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