Re: Can this be done?
From: Ricky (rsjoiner_at_no_spambellsouth.net)
Date: 02/27/05
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:58:12 -0600
"Nick Haury" <aecdesign@truevine.net> wrote in message
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> BAR wrote:
>> If you learned to read, it would help.
>>
>> Frm my understanding of your confused writings: You have a new PC with XP
>> home and NO APPLICATIONS. You have an Old PC with XP Pro many
>> applications and documents.
>>
>> You want to make the new PC have all those applications and docments and
>> do it 'quickly'; your hope was simply to overwrite the new PC registrry
>> with that of the Old PC. This is not a solution, it will result in
>> damaging the Operating System and making the PC useless.
>>
>> By definition, 'Upgrading' Home to Pro is not an issue. Definiton of
>> Upgrade - to install the newer or improved version of an application or
>> operating system 'in-place' or 'over the top' of an existing application
>> or operating system.
>>
>> What it will achieve for your purposes is absolutely NOTHING, in so far
>> as the installation and use of application or documents that are
>> installed on another PC. 'ALL' applications and files, documents etc
>> cannot be copied off one PC onto another and be expected to work. If it
>> were this easy, then people would be 'stealing' software all day long.
>> What is required, is to install all those applications onto the XP Home
>> system. My suggestion was with regards to time saving ideas and
>> considering that you may or not have the installation CDs for all the
>> applications. Thus my comments are written with a view as to how you can
>> 'reuse' the FULL WORKING SYSTEM of the OLD PC in the New PC.
>>
>> If you have all the applications, then take the long 'easy route':
>> install the applications onto the New PC, one at a time. Once it has
>> been fully 'built', then use Files and Settings Transfer Wizard on the
>> Old PC, create the 'FAST File' and then run FAST on the New PC and import
>> the FAST file from the Old PC.
>>
>> If you can't install the applications on the New PC, then you should
>> consider the repair install, using the Hard Drive from the Old PC in the
>> new PC and then perform a repair install to set XP to the new
>> Motherboard.
>>
>> I hope you take time to read this and my previous post, carefully: come
>> back again if you have any more questions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Nick Haury" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>BAR wrote:
>>>
>>>>The 'registry' is an integral part of Windows.
>>>>
>>>>To keep this intact and not have any Windows settings is as if one were
>>>>to keep the water in a bowl, but not keep the bowl!
>>>>
>>>>If the new system has all your applications installed, then good use
>>>>Files and Settings Transfer to export from the old and import to the
>>>>new. Save the FAST file to your HDD and then copy off to a CD or DVD
>>>>for the convenience of this 2 step process.
>>>>
>>>>If you don't have all the application so as to reinstall; then take the
>>>>HDD from the old machine and install it in place of the system drive in
>>>>the new machine.
>>>>
>>>>Prior to this, make a list of all the devices you have installed and
>>>>download all the relevant drivers from the manufacturer's web site, copy
>>>>them to a CD.
>>>>
>>>>Now do not boot up into Windows, but insert the 'old' Windows Home CD
>>>>and allow the system to boot off the CD. You will need to perform a
>>>>repair install to set the 'old' Windows HDD to the new motherboard etc.
>>>>
>>>>You receive the following message on the Welcome to Setup screen that
>>>>appears: This portion of the Setup program prepares Microsoft Windows XP
>>>>to run on your computer:
>>>>
>>>>To setup Windows XP now, press ENTER.
>>>>
>>>>To repair a Windows XP installation using Recovery Console, press R.
>>>>
>>>>To quit Setup without installing Windows XP, press F3.
>>>>Press ENTER to set up Windows XP.
>>>>
>>>>On the Windows XP Licensing Agreement screen, press F8 to agree to the
>>>>license agreement.
>>>>
>>>>Make sure that your current installation of Windows XP is selected in
>>>>the box, and then press R to repair Windows XP.
>>>>
>>>>After you repair Windows XP, you may have to reactivate your copy of
>>>>Windows XP.
>>>>
>>>>Use the XP product key for the new machine if both have OEM versions of
>>>>XP, so as to keep 'clean' with the EULA on each.
>>>>
>>>>If there are any devices for which XP requires specific drivers, then
>>>>you can insert the CD which you made earlier.
>>>>
>>>>Once the system is operating, you can decide if you wish to clone the
>>>>'old' drive to the new one.
>>>>You can also consider using Ghost to make an image of the xurrent
>>>>working state of the old PC before starting all of this. So that you
>>>>can reimage the 'old' operating environment back to the drive if you
>>>>replace it in the old PC.
>>>>
>>>>Sounds complicated, but it is necessary if you don't have all the
>>>>original application disks and licence / product IDs etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Nick Haury" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Is there a way to backup my system so as to get all the registry
>>>>>setting for the programs that I have loaded and not window XP Home? I
>>>>>want to install Windows XP Pro and then just restore all my programs
>>>>>and the registry settings for them. I got a new machine that had all
>>>>>the mother board programs and drives on it all ready. I looked at the
>>>>>restore disk but all the programs for the MB are incorporated in the
>>>>>restore program itself.
>>>>>Nick
>>>>>
>>>
>>>Then, if I understand you correctly the answer is NO. That if I want to
>>>upgrade this computer to Win XP Pro, I will loose all my setting, all the
>>>programs and drives for the MB. If I use the restore disk, it will put
>>>Win XP Home back on the system after I go to the trouble of putting XP
>>>Pro on. Now what I need to do is transfer all the files that pertain to
>>>the new system, the programs them selves would be nice, some where safe
>>>that I can import back into the system after it is configured with XP
>>>Pro.
>>>
>>>In a nut shell here is the problem, my had drive crashed in my old
>>>system. Fortuneitly I alway have my important files on another hard
>>>drive. Instead of just getting a new hard drive I went and got a new
>>>system that has Win XP Home on it, also it has all the MB info, as well
>>>as the, i.e. DVD burner and software all ready loaded. I has a hidden
>>>partition that contains the system restore software, but all the software
>>>that I want in incorporated into the system restore. Now if I go and put
>>>XP Pro on the machine, then I must format the hard drive for it. So the
>>>situation is how can I backup the system restore, to retain the software
>>>for the new system, and load XP Pro?
>>>
> If you learned to understand, that would do the trick.
>
> I have a new pc, yes, forget all the other crap applications for a moment.
> This new pc, had already been loaded with WIN XP Home and it's various
> software, drivers and the like, for the hardware that came with it! Now I
> want to upgrade the OS to WIN XP Pro! Are you reading my lips so far?
> The old PC's Hard drive is "FUBAR", got that? Now, I'm not at all worried
> about my files and the programs that I have, but what I am concerned about
> are the one that were preinstalled at the factory on the new PC! These
> programs I don't have, but will need on the new PC after I load WIN XP
> Pro, you got that? This is the question? THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ON THE
> NEW PC, IS THERE A WAY TO GET THEM FROM THE NEW PC's HARD DRIVE, (AND
> INTACT ), AND BACK ON THE HDD AFTER I INSTALL WIN XP PRO? This seems to
> me a simple question, I've read all the responses and it seems to me that
> if I could articulate correctly that it would have been resolved by now.
> I know, I know, all about the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard, but that
> doesn't do me any good in a reverse situation! I need the drivers and
> programs that function on the new PC WIN XP Home to be on the WIN XP Pro
> OS when I install it. The restore disk doesn't list them individually so
> it going to be impossible to use the restore CD as a source to install the
> programs and drives that I need! To your reference to using the WIN XP
> Home disk, I can't, It's part of the restore disk. If I install Pro and
> then the restore disk, it will just overwrite the XP pro OS to XP Home,
> understand? This is either a yes or no question! From what you have
> said, I take it the answer is NO! I'm just SOL as far as upgrading my
> system to XP Pro, unless I want to buy the programs that came with the new
> system ( ie the one that lets me burn cd's an dvd's) as far as getting
> the drivers for the system from the manufacturer, this is not an option
> either since they haven't posted them on their web site due to the new
> ness of the system to the public market. So I guess I'll have to use XP
> Home, I really don't want to. Thanks for nothing.
> P.S. If you think I'm a little pissed at your last post then you get the
> bras ring, I don't appericiate to be talked to in that manner, so what
> goes around, come around.
> Nick
Go here and get Everest Home..
http://www.lavalys.com/products/download.php?pid=1&lang=en It will tell you
what kind of motherboard and other hardware you have. After that you can go
to the manufactures website and get the drivers.
-- To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer. Farmers' Almanac
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