Re: Can this be done?
From: Nick Haury (aecdesign_at_truevine.net)
Date: 02/27/05
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:48:32 -0700
BAR wrote:
> If you learned to read, it would help.
>
> Frm my understanding of your confused writings: You have a new PC with XP
> home and NO APPLICATIONS. You have an Old PC with XP Pro many applications
> and documents.
>
> You want to make the new PC have all those applications and docments and do
> it 'quickly'; your hope was simply to overwrite the new PC registrry with
> that of the Old PC. This is not a solution, it will result in damaging the
> Operating System and making the PC useless.
>
> By definition, 'Upgrading' Home to Pro is not an issue. Definiton of
> Upgrade - to install the newer or improved version of an application or
> operating system 'in-place' or 'over the top' of an existing application or
> operating system.
>
> What it will achieve for your purposes is absolutely NOTHING, in so far as
> the installation and use of application or documents that are installed on
> another PC. 'ALL' applications and files, documents etc cannot be copied off
> one PC onto another and be expected to work. If it were this easy, then
> people would be 'stealing' software all day long.
>
> What is required, is to install all those applications onto the XP Home
> system. My suggestion was with regards to time saving ideas and considering
> that you may or not have the installation CDs for all the applications.
>
> Thus my comments are written with a view as to how you can 'reuse' the FULL
> WORKING SYSTEM of the OLD PC in the New PC.
>
> If you have all the applications, then take the long 'easy route': install
> the applications onto the New PC, one at a time. Once it has been fully
> 'built', then use Files and Settings Transfer Wizard on the Old PC, create
> the 'FAST File' and then run FAST on the New PC and import the FAST file from
> the Old PC.
>
> If you can't install the applications on the New PC, then you should
> consider the repair install, using the Hard Drive from the Old PC in the new
> PC and then perform a repair install to set XP to the new Motherboard.
>
> I hope you take time to read this and my previous post, carefully: come back
> again if you have any more questions.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Nick Haury" wrote:
>
>
>>BAR wrote:
>>
>>>The 'registry' is an integral part of Windows.
>>>
>>>To keep this intact and not have any Windows settings is as if one were to
>>>keep the water in a bowl, but not keep the bowl!
>>>
>>>If the new system has all your applications installed, then good use Files
>>>and Settings Transfer to export from the old and import to the new. Save the
>>>FAST file to your HDD and then copy off to a CD or DVD for the convenience of
>>>this 2 step process.
>>>
>>>If you don't have all the application so as to reinstall; then take the HDD
>>>from the old machine and install it in place of the system drive in the new
>>>machine.
>>>
>>>Prior to this, make a list of all the devices you have installed and
>>>download all the relevant drivers from the manufacturer's web site, copy them
>>>to a CD.
>>>
>>>Now do not boot up into Windows, but insert the 'old' Windows Home CD and
>>>allow the system to boot off the CD. You will need to perform a repair
>>>install to set the 'old' Windows HDD to the new motherboard etc.
>>>
>>>You receive the following message on the Welcome to Setup screen that
>>>appears:
>>>This portion of the Setup program prepares Microsoft Windows XP to run on
>>>your computer:
>>>
>>>To setup Windows XP now, press ENTER.
>>>
>>>To repair a Windows XP installation using Recovery Console, press R.
>>>
>>>To quit Setup without installing Windows XP, press F3.
>>>
>>>Press ENTER to set up Windows XP.
>>>
>>>On the Windows XP Licensing Agreement screen, press F8 to agree to the
>>>license agreement.
>>>
>>>Make sure that your current installation of Windows XP is selected in the
>>>box, and then press R to repair Windows XP.
>>>
>>>After you repair Windows XP, you may have to reactivate your copy of Windows
>>>XP.
>>>
>>>Use the XP product key for the new machine if both have OEM versions of XP,
>>>so as to keep 'clean' with the EULA on each.
>>>
>>>If there are any devices for which XP requires specific drivers, then you
>>>can insert the CD which you made earlier.
>>>
>>>Once the system is operating, you can decide if you wish to clone the 'old'
>>>drive to the new one.
>>>
>>>You can also consider using Ghost to make an image of the xurrent working
>>>state of the old PC before starting all of this. So that you can reimage the
>>>'old' operating environment back to the drive if you replace it in the old PC.
>>>
>>>Sounds complicated, but it is necessary if you don't have all the original
>>>application disks and licence / product IDs etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Nick Haury" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is there a way to backup my system so as to get all the registry
>>>>setting for the programs that I have loaded and not window XP Home? I
>>>>want to install Windows XP Pro and then just restore all my programs and
>>>>the registry settings for them. I got a new machine that had all the
>>>>mother board programs and drives on it all ready. I looked at the
>>>>restore disk but all the programs for the MB are incorporated in the
>>>>restore program itself.
>>>>Nick
>>>>
>>
>>Then, if I understand you correctly the answer is NO. That if I want to
>>upgrade this computer to Win XP Pro, I will loose all my setting, all
>>the programs and drives for the MB. If I use the restore disk, it will
>>put Win XP Home back on the system after I go to the trouble of putting
>>XP Pro on. Now what I need to do is transfer all the files that pertain
>>to the new system, the programs them selves would be nice, some where
>>safe that I can import back into the system after it is configured with
>>XP Pro.
>>
>>In a nut shell here is the problem, my had drive crashed in my old
>>system. Fortuneitly I alway have my important files on another hard
>>drive. Instead of just getting a new hard drive I went and got a new
>>system that has Win XP Home on it, also it has all the MB info, as well
>>as the, i.e. DVD burner and software all ready loaded. I has a hidden
>>partition that contains the system restore software, but all the
>>software that I want in incorporated into the system restore. Now if I
>>go and put XP Pro on the machine, then I must format the hard drive for
>>it. So the situation is how can I backup the system restore, to retain
>>the software for the new system, and load XP Pro?
>>
If you learned to understand, that would do the trick.
I have a new pc, yes, forget all the other crap applications for a
moment. This new pc, had already been loaded with WIN XP Home and it's
various software, drivers and the like, for the hardware that came with
it! Now I want to upgrade the OS to WIN XP Pro! Are you reading my
lips so far? The old PC's Hard drive is "FUBAR", got that? Now, I'm
not at all worried about my files and the programs that I have, but what
I am concerned about are the one that were preinstalled at the factory
on the new PC! These programs I don't have, but will need on the new PC
after I load WIN XP Pro, you got that? This is the question? THE
APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ON THE NEW PC, IS THERE A WAY TO GET THEM FROM THE
NEW PC's HARD DRIVE, (AND INTACT ), AND BACK ON THE HDD AFTER I
INSTALL WIN XP PRO? This seems to me a simple question, I've read all
the responses and it seems to me that if I could articulate correctly
that it would have been resolved by now. I know, I know, all about the
Files and Settings Transfer Wizard, but that doesn't do me any good in a
reverse situation! I need the drivers and programs that function on the
new PC WIN XP Home to be on the WIN XP Pro OS when I install it. The
restore disk doesn't list them individually so it going to be impossible
to use the restore CD as a source to install the programs and drives
that I need! To your reference to using the WIN XP Home disk, I can't,
It's part of the restore disk. If I install Pro and then the restore
disk, it will just overwrite the XP pro OS to XP Home, understand? This
is either a yes or no question! From what you have said, I take it the
answer is NO! I'm just SOL as far as upgrading my system to XP Pro,
unless I want to buy the programs that came with the new system ( ie the
one that lets me burn cd's an dvd's) as far as getting the drivers for
the system from the manufacturer, this is not an option either since
they haven't posted them on their web site due to the new ness of the
system to the public market. So I guess I'll have to use XP Home, I
really don't want to. Thanks for nothing.
P.S. If you think I'm a little pissed at your last post then you get the
bras ring, I don't appericiate to be talked to in that manner, so what
goes around, come around.
Nick
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