Re: COM+ errors

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From: Ramerman (Ramerman_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 11/04/04 

Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:54:01 -0800

Wes, again thanks for the research you are doing into this. My PC (HP) came
with Windows XP Home Edition already installed. I am in Australia, so I am
not sure if there are differing version in XP HE, however it had the
Appmgmt.dll. I suspect that the plural version (Appmgmts.dll) is XP Pro
specific. Why I have been pursuing the errors is because about 50% of the
time you boot up specific applications wont start. Some at least provide an
error message of sorts, others just don't start - the pointer becomes an "Egg
timer" and then simply returns to a pointer with no application running and
no messages. Since I reinstalled the COM+ thing and with the resultant
situation whereby Appmgmt.dll was no longer available with a number of
applications returning the application management service error, I followed
your advice and researched and researched. I eventually managed to send an
email to MS and very promptly received a response with advice on how to go
about things. It involved a number of steps, the 1st being to remove SP2.
To that end there were reasons given and a link to an MS site. This provided
the relevant insructions which I followed and which removed SP2. Once having
done that I had to reboot the PC at least 5 times with different results
(hanging, lots of start up errors etc) but finally I managed to reboot and
have the PC in a reasonable working order. Step 2 was to check on
preinstallation requirements for SP2. This resulted in a further six or so
steps most being quite onerous and many didn't work (due to nview.ddl errors
- a new error for my system). My virus checker also suddenly found about 5
virus ?didn't detect any prior to this? One of these steps involved visiting
the HP site which led to a series of more steps including 6 HP driver
updates. Once I finished all those (about 20hours in total effort because
step involved a reboot) the PC finally started behaving itself. Much of the
functionality I had lost with the SP2 upgrade (inc setting restore points)
finally worked again. Step 3 is to download SP2 again because theoretically
the PC is now SP2 ready. I haven't done that yet. Interestingly, I still
have the same Appn Mgmt error. However I have "tricked" the PC into thinking
it is OK by copying appmgmts.dll and renaming it. With that done all the
apps work. If I remove it, they don't. BEATS ME! Once I have reinstalled
SP2 I will post the results.

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

> Appmgmt.dll does not seem to exist. I do not have it on my machine or on my
> XP Pro CD or my XP Home CD. Not even a compressed version. A search at
> DLL Help Database
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/fileversion/dllinfo.asp
>
> brings back: No results found. Microsoft seems to never have heard of
> Appmgmt.dll
>
> There ain't no Appmgmt.dll. ;-)
>
> I did find this reference to Appmgmt.dll...
> [[The Application Management service is not supported in Microsoft Windows
> XP Home Edition and the Appmgmt.dll file is not included with Windows XP
> Home Edition.]]
> Adding or removing a program may generate Event ID 7023
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328213
>
> Black Viper suggests that you disable the Application Management service if
> you have XP Home, until installation of Service Pack 2. I see that you have
> SP2. Hmm...
>
> There seems to be a spelling problem, because it's APPMGMTS.DLL.
>
> APPMGMTS.DLL = Software installation Service
>
> APPMGMTS.DLL lives here >>>
> C:\WINDOWS\system32
> and
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache
>
> APPMGMTS.DL_ the compressed version of APPMGMTS.DLL is on my XP Pro CD.
> APPMGMTS.DL_ is in the :\I386 folder.
> APPMGMTS.DL_ does not exist on my XP Home CD. That part seems correct.
>
> [[Appmgmts.dll is an MMC extension to gpedit.dll that provides settings for
> Software Installation Group Policy.]]
>
> That explains why it does not exist on XP Home. gpedit.dll is not available
> on XP Home. Gpedit.msc is not available on XP Home.
>
> gpedit.dll = GPEdit
> gpedit.msc = Group Policy
> =====
>
> I have every COM+ and DCOM item disabled. I get errors in the Event Viewer.
> Big deal.
>
> If you do not have any COM+ Applications installed, disable the COM+
> System Application Service.
>
> See these two links...
>
> COM+ System Application Service
> http://www.theeldergeek.com/com+_system_application.htm
>
> COM+ System Application
> http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm#COM+_System_Application
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> Wes
>
> In news:B131FC7F-D688-4A80-8793-643B9F8AEB8F@microsoft.com,
> Ramerman <Ramerman@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> > Wes, Thanks for your info. I followed the various pieces of info on
> > the sites. I did follow one suggested resolution which I think fixed
> > the COM+ prob. (The solution to the COM+ prob was to run a couple of
> > cmds from the Command Prompt and then go to Control Panel Add/Remove
> > Programs Windows Components). However, since then I have now a
> > problem with the Appmgmt.dll. I checked that on the MSKB only to
> > discover that it is a known bug, there is a fix, but I don't qualify
> > for support. My OS came with my HP box. This Appmgmt.dll problem has
> > occurred before, but after a reboot appeared OK. Now however, even a
> > reboot doesn't fix it - I therefore checked the contents of
> > Windows/System32 and sure enough, there ain't no Appmgmt.dll.
> >
> > "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
> >
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> >> Wes
> >>
> >> In news:629784CA-BDEA-4001-9C4D-699D1E489683@microsoft.com,
> >> Ramerman <Ramerman@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> >>> Thanks for the advice. I will follow it and see if I can resolve
> >>> the issue. Will post the outcome.
> >>>
> >>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> To open the Event Viewer...
> >>>> Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | OK
> >>>>
> >>>> Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below
> >>>> the second arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the
> >>>> event to the Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
> >>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> >>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> >>>>
> >>>> Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related
> >>>> Knowledge Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful
> >>>>
> >>>> HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
> >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> >>>> Wes
> >>>>
> >>>> In news:D007F139-F495-4B6B-B0B5-4AEAF71D4779@microsoft.com,
> >>>> Ramerman <Ramerman@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> >>>>> Lately - since SP2? - I keep getting this error.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The COM+ System Application service terminated unexpectedly. It
> >>>>> has done this 3 time(s).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have tried MSKB but cannot seem to get an answer.
>
>

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