Re: WinXP, Ghost, Licensing, OEM's, and more
From: chriske911 (chriske911-spamhater_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 10/28/04
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:27:14 +0200
Matt outputte 't volgende:
> Greets -
>
> I'm wondering if I can do the following legally and physically to make life
> easier :-)
>
> I work for a small shop that does home PC repair. We get a lot of machines
> in for repair, and some need rebuilds. The delimma is when a customer needs
> a PC rebuilt, owns a legal license (sticker on outside of case) but either
> can't find/doesn't have their restore CDs, which happens a LOT. Since I
> have much experience w/ Ghost and sysprep (in the corporate world) I'd like
> to make some kind of ghost image that will prompt for their serial on boot,
> which I know can be done. What I run into is, certain builds don't accept
> certain serial numbers. For example, if I use a general OEM CD to build,
> and put in, say a Gateway serial off their PC, it gets rejected. I have to
> hope that they can find their restore CDs usually. Basically I'm looking
> to cut down turnaround time for the customers, while still doing this all
> right and legal.
>
> What I need to know is:
> a> Can I do what I'd like to do legally? The serial numbers would be the
> ones already owned by that customer who needs the PC rebuilt. So to my
> mind, this should be all legal but if anyone knows any reason why it
> wouldn't be, please tell me and I'll be happy to cease looking into it.
>
> b> Can I make a ghost image that would work across multple OEMs, or will I
> just need to make and sysprep an image for each OEM, i.e. a WinXP for
> Gateway, WinXP for Dell, WinXP for HP (if it's trashed on the HD stored
> version), etc. I don't know enough about how the serials are separated to
> know if it's by OEM, or by some kind of software generation release. Or
> would this even work?
>
> c> Same questions for other OS's.. Windows ME is still prevalent around
> here, as is Win98 first and second edition.. as well as a scattered W95
> machine here and there. Granted W95 and 98, and possibly ME may not be able
> to be prepped how I like, but XP is the going foward
>
> d> Anything I'm missing here?
>
> I appreciate any ideas and info that anyone has!
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
I have had the same problems, especially with the OEM recovery media
since an investigation on several client's pc's I saw that OEM's
sometimes have 3 different keys for the same build
1 is in the unattended file, another on the original sticker and a
third actually in use for the current installation
go figure
I too hate the fact that you cannot use any media at hand and use it
with any official key at hand
but I have a work around for this, you can do this by having a
"standard empty" ISO of a valid WindowsXP CD and copy the i386 of the
recovery media in to it
burn the copy and voila, you have a "normal" windows XP install CD with
slipstreaming of SP2 (or whatever) if you want
for A-brand products you can use the same image over and over again
there will be a mini installation for some changed hardware but mostly
XP recovers quit nicely
(also with win2K and even Win98se I never experienced real issues with
not to different models)
if a key is not valid I use a key that alwoys works for the
installation cd I legally own (corporate) and change it afterwards with
the client's own official sticker key, later on the client is then
required to activate his copy
I also make an image of every new client's installation on his own hard
drive (hidden partition) and another copy on CD wich I keep to myself
for future use
I have had no hassles with this so far, it's quite some administration
to keep up and a huge stack of CD's but once setup it works like a
charm :')
a second re-installation is done within 15 minutes
grtz
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