Re: SP2 Really Necessary??

From: Jupiter Jones [MVP] (jones_jupiter_at_hotnomail.com)
Date: 09/30/04 

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:39:54 -0600

"No offense but 450 pages of 20 error question on each"
Did you look over those carefully?
If you are referring to the lists I have seen, it appears you haven't.

Many of those do not even apply to SP-2.
Others are known and expected issues resulting from new security and
quick fixes.
Others are user error.

The number often stated is about 10% of computers will have issues of
some kind with SP-2.
When you remove the above, the % drops.

Nothing can guarantee a successful installation of SP-2, but
preparation can put your computer at the very low % of having issues. 

-- 
Jupiter Jones  [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
"ElGringoLoco" <ElGringoLoco@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in 
message news:B5279E63-FB7C-4864-8A8B-7EC088F6AC19@microsoft.com...
> You're kidding right?
>
> "SP2 is a solid, secure release."..."stronger security, stability, 
> and
> affords a tad better performance benefit."
>
> I about crapped my pants laughing so hard at this.
>
> No offense but 450 pages of 20 error question on each, mostly all 
> different
> issues from one another, tells me that either A. You can't read very 
> well or
> B. Microsoft is paying you an extra fee to push this unsecure 
> draconian
> producct upon the masses.
> You know as well as I do that our American population is so stupid 
> that they
> will believe you when you tell them how great this is.
>
> Sorry but this software update is pure crap.
> Nothing but hell is unleashed upon everyones computer.
>
> I give microsoft its credit in the past but lately, since getting 
> into bed
> with the feds, it has gone to hell in a handbasket. You know it, I 
> know it,
> and maybe a few others in here know it.
>
> I suggest to everyone, get rid of SP2. It's crap. You don't need it 
> if you
> have your own firewall, own virus scanner you keep up-to-date, and 
> spyware
> removal.
>
> -It had to be said. Your product is crap. Sorry.
>
> "Carey Frisch  [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> SP2 is a solid, secure release.  It is a major "Critical Update"
>> for Windows XP and updates about 5 million lines of code,
>> enabling much stronger security, stability, and affords a tad 
>> better
>> performance benefit. I would encourage you to install it.
>>
>> You may wish to view the following:
>>
>> Top 10 Reasons to Install Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/topten.mspx
>>
>> List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811113&Product=windowsxpsp2
>>
>> Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx
>>
>> What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service 
>> Pack 2
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/sp2_whattoknow.mspx
>>
>> Support WebCast: How to obtain and install Microsoft Windows XP 
>> Service Pack 2
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=885631
>>
>> Welcome to "Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) Chat".
>> You can get no charge Windows XP SP2 support here:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=Wxpsp2chat
>>
>> Scan your PC for the presence of viruses and spyware before 
>> installing SP2:
>>
>> Download Ad-aware SE and scan your PC for the presence of spyware:
>> http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button
>>
>> Symantec Security Check
>> http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/default.asp?langid=ie&venid=sym
>>
>> I would suggest performing the following maintenance prior to
>> installing SP2:
>>
>> Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310312&Product=winxp
>>
>> How to Perform Disk Error Checking in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315265&Product=winxp
>>
>> After installing SP2, run the above maintenance utilities again, 
>> then perform a Defrag:
>>
>> HOW TO: Analyze and Defragment a Disk in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;305781&Product=winxp
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>
>> Be Smart!  Protect Your PC!
>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Bob Hunt" wrote:
>>
>> | I have read so many horror stories on here about the SP2, I am 
>> hesitant to
>> | put it on my computers that are working, and having no problems. 
>> I use
>> | Mozilla Firefox, have a router (firewall), AntiVirus, Spybot, 
>> SpySweeper,
>> | Ad-Aware, and SpamFilter installed on both of them.  What if 
>> anything other
>> | that the touted security from Microsoft will the SP2 provide me? 
>> I don't
>> | like problems.  It appears that getting a successful SP2 
>> installation is
>> | really a hit or miss type installation.  Is it really worth the 
>> hassle?
>> | I would like to see the pro and cons on this.
>> |
>> | -- 
>>
>>