Re: recovery console and lass.exe error
From: kev (kevin_at_ihatespam.com)
Date: 08/11/04
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:29:52 -0500
Winguy-
you are just spouting off a bunch of BS to me. i said nothing about safe
mode or sfc. did you even read my post? you are not talking to a dumbass
here. i was hoping an advanced user like myself would shed some light
on my problem, not tell me about proper backups, xp cd's or anything
else. FYI- the emergency repair procedure i referred to in my first post
is a documented procedure in microsofts KB. i have done this procedure
many times before with success. I always use it as a last resort. the
energency repair procedure is basically a manual system restore
performed from the recovery console.
now this problem i get when i do this seems to only happen when I work
on dells, compaqs, gateways, etc... my guess is that it has something to
do with their disk duplication methods stripping the sids, like sysprep
does.
WinGuy wrote:
> "Brian" <brian@cablelynx.com> wrote in message
> news:u4TW4MbfEHA.2000@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>>im trying to fix a pc for a friend of mine. its a fairly new pc, a compaq
>>presario desktop model. got a p4 2.0 512 ddr, 80gb hd, xp he, etc...
>>
>>i used the recovery console to do a emergency repair( replacing system,
>>software, sam, security, and default with the backups from the repair
>>folder. ) now when it boots up i get a lass.exe error saying something
>
> about
>
>>trying to update a password but couldnt verify something...i dont know
>>exactly but thats the jist of it. anyway that message comes up every time
>>and then the system shuts down.
>>
>>this has happened to me many times before but i never found out why or how
>>to reverse it other than a format/reinstall.( not even a repair install
>>fixed it). and when i try to get back into the recovery console it now
>
> asks
>
>>me for an admin. password.
>>
>>anyone got any ideas other than a format/reinstall?
>
>
> :(
>
> When you boot into Windows you always have to be sure that you use the same
> type of XP cd for running the SFC /SCANNOW command as was used to install
> the operating system the first time; i.e. use a XP-Home cd if XP-Home is
> installed, and a XP-Pro cd if XP-Pro is installed. Also, use a SP1 version
> of the cd if SP1 is installed. Caveat: I'm not yet sure if that procedure
> can be used if SP2 is installed. SFC is used to replace damaged or improper
> versions of essential operating system files, after which a Safe Mode boot
> at the very least should be guaranteed. You can not run the SFC command from
> the Recovery Console (RC). The RC copy utility is primarily only for repair
> of individual files.
>
> What your backup procedure is doing is anyone's guess, since you didn't
> elaborate at all. And your backup/restore procedure is probably the very
> cause of your current problem and will likely require a clean install of
> Windows again. Note that many Windows operating system files can not be
> restored from a backup, because they are in use when Windows itself is
> running. Try using a 3rd party utility such as Norton's Ghost (it and GoBack
> are the only 2 products they have that I approve of) for operating system
> backup purposes in the future. You can NOT backup all *system* files, and
> restore them again, without using a utility that is very specially designed
> to do this sort of thing (normal copy methods will NOT do this properly for
> you). In general, I recommend a 2nd HDD be used for creation of a cloned
> "bootable copy" backup of a HDD and being careful to only use the HDD
> manufactures' special utility for that purpose.
>
> The error you have is a serious one, very fatal in of itself, and while it
> could be (in time) corrected for the effort would be great and highly
> annoying and involve a very, very large and time consuming learning curve.
> You would be quite an expert when you finished the task! Best to just wipe
> the HDD and start over from scratch, and use proper backup methods
> thereafter. The User created data files, if you backed them up, are still
> available and could be restored once you have the operating system and User
> programs re-installed. You could copy the HDD to another to maintain backup
> of the User created files, then wipe the HDD and start over from scratch and
> then get the User created files from that backup if they currently still
> exist on the HDD.
>
>
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