Re: Windows XP Pro Locks Up When Hard Drive Crashes...
From: Theriex (theriex_at_nospam.com)
Date: 05/25/04
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:27:20 -0400
This drive is a new-build replacement that I got from maxtor, this is the
3rd or 4th new-build replacement i've gotten from them that doesn't work
(all doing the same thing) The most recent HD I have gotten from them is the
working one that is in my system.
So just to make it real clear to everyone my opinion of Maxtor - They suck
goat balls.
Anyways theres only one thing I haven't tried, i haven't taken the failing
HD and placed it in my gf's computer to see if it will cause her OS to lock
up when it crashes.
I should try that and see. If it doesn't lock up, there must be some
setting or something in windows on my system that is causing the system to
lock. If it does lock up, then i guess i'm SOL.
"Tony Meyer" <tony@spamthisyouprickcomputec-cns.co.nz> wrote in message
news:c8tud8$4nt$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> OK, mate, thats seems to have about covered it. So you know your HDD is
> sucking the big Kumara. All I can suggest is that maybe all HDD's, when
they
> die can exhibit quite different symptoms in their death throes, depending
> upon what aspect of it has died first.... All the best mate...
>
> --
> Tony Meyer
> CompUTec Computer & Network Services
> Pukekohe New Zealand.
>
> "Theriex" <theriex@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:piesc.42168$mY6.38389@fe03.usenetserver.com...
> > OK, just to remove any confusion... I have switched the drives from
> primary
> > to secondary, from master to slave on primary, from master to slave on
> > secondary. I purchased a new motherboard. I have ran the system fine
> with
> > the working hard disk in both the primary and secondary controllers
> without
> > the failing hard drive attached.
> >
> > I know for an absolute fact through these and numerous other tests and
> trial
> > and errors that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the IDE
controllers
> > or anything else in my system for that matter (with the failing HD being
> an
> > exception) (I'm also a computer systems technician)
> >
> > When I originally posted this problem I was hoping someone knew why
> windows
> > would lock up completely when my failing hard drive on the secondary ide
> > controller as a slave, with no pagefile or any windows files located on
> that
> > drive, with system restore disabled and anything else that windows would
> use
> > not being on that drive, crashed.
> >
> > I am puzzled as to how a HD that isn't used to run the system in any way
> can
> > cause the OS to lock up completely. Thats my problem.
> >
> > I mentioned before that i have never had this problem before with
previous
> > windows os's and that my gf's computer which is also running windows xp
> pro
> > and has a failing HD in it that does the exact same thing that my HD
does,
> > does not lock windows up when it crashes.
> >
> > I hope that clears everything up and removes any confusion.
> >
> > "Tony Meyer" <tony@spamthisyouprickcomputec-cns.co.nz> wrote in message
> > news:c8rfi4$gsl$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> > > Hey Theriex, you did say in your previous post that you had removed
the
> > > offending drive which caused the problem, but you didn't mention that
> you
> > > had swapped them over on the IDE channels. Thats why I suggested it.
> > Another
> > > thing you could do is bung the offending drive onto another machine
with
> > XP
> > > on it as a secondary drive or jumper it and run it off your primary
IDE
> > > controller as a slave and see if it makes a difference. Either way
this
> > > would prove or disprove the drive itself or the IDE controller Hope
this
> > > helps. All the best
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tony Meyer
> > >
> > > "Theriex" <theriex@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:hdXrc.12918$cA1.11422@fe13.usenetserver.com...
> > > > Yes in my previous message i believe i said i swapped the drives and
> > even
> > > if
> > > > it was the secondary controller, why would that lock up windows when
> the
> > > > drive the OS is on, is on the primary controller.
> > > >
> > > > Anyways I know its not the controller, i replaced the MoBo not too
> long
> > > ago
> > > > thinking that it must be something wrong with my system since this
> > wasn't
> > > > the first time i've had maxtor drives fail. Unfortunately I was
wrong
> > and
> > > > Maxtor just sucks, i've only received one working HD from them so
far.
> > > (the
> > > > one i'm using for my OS right now)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And if yer curious what the drive does, it makes a loud CLICK, then
> > sounds
> > > > like it is respinning back up. Only happens during read/write
> > operations
> > > to
> > > > the drive. (Keep in mind that windows does not use this drive for
> > > anything)
> > > >
> > > > "Tony Meyer" <tony@spamthisyouprickcomputec-cns.co.nz> wrote in
> message
> > > > news:c8pe89$k0$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> > > > > One thing I would consider off the top of my head is that the
> > secondary
> > > > IDE
> > > > > controller is failing and maybe not the HDD at all... What tests
> have
> > > you
> > > > > run? Have you swapped the drives over so the failing one is on
the
> > > > primary?
> > > > > See if it still crashes... What are the symptoms of the failing
one,
> > IE
> > > > how
> > > > > do you know its failing? Is it making nasty noises? Just a couple
> of
> > > > things
> > > > > to consider... All the best,
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tony Meyer
> > > > > CompUTec Computer & Network Services
> > > > > Pukekohe New Zealand
> > > > >
> > > > > "Theriex" <theriex@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:9PWrc.28486$%Y3.3038@fe02.usenetserver.com...
> > > > > > I'm running Windows XP Pro w/complete updates. I have a failing
> > 40Gb
> > > > hard
> > > > > > drive and when it crashes it locks up the entire OS. What I
can't
> > > > figure
> > > > > > out is why?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The OS is on a completely different 'working' HD, the page file
is
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > same 'working' HD. The failing HD is being used for storage and
> > that
> > > is
> > > > > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The working HD is on the primary ide controller on the MoBo and
> the
> > > > > failing
> > > > > > HD is on the secondary ide controller on the MoBo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've had failing HD's before, and it never used to do this in
> > previous
> > > > > > versions of Windows.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not sure if anyone knows why this is happening and how i can
> fix
> > > it,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > i'm not sure what information about my system would be helpful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have 2 Maxtor 40Gb HD's capable and running in UDMA-6 mode and
> are
> > > > both
> > > > > > NTFS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Before replying to this, I have tired absolutely everything i
can
> > > think
> > > > of
> > > > > > and yes removing the failing HD fixes the problem, obviously.
But
> i
> > > > need
> > > > > > the HD in there and there is no reason it should be causing the
> > system
> > > > to
> > > > > > hang when it is only used for storage and windows doesn't have
any
> > > > files
> > > > > on
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If anyone has any ideas, please email me at
spam.bin@sympatico.ca
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