Re: PC Shopping: How do I tell if a PC is VT-capable (MS Virtualization)?
- From: "David B." <mail@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:12:30 -0400
How is it Intel's fault that you purchased a PC that doesn't support virtualization?
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"Paul" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:h7h9m6$19f$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Al Dykes wrote:I'm beginning to shop for my next PC (Windows 7) and want the ability
to use the virtualization. I recall the noise about Sony not updating
the BIOS on an otherwise VT-capable PC which pissed off some owners.
I could print out a list of VT-compatible Intel chips and the
comparable AMD chips, but it's not always easy to find what chip is in
a retail machine and it seems to take a friendly BIOS, anyway.
Will a "Windows 7 ready" sticker, if such exists, include VT
compatibility?
Well, you made my day. I find out my processor doesn't support VT-x.
Coverage is really hit and miss. Thanks, Intel. The other funny bit,
is my cheesy $60 motherboard, supports enabling it :-)
http://ark.intel.com/VTList.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD-V#AMD_virtualization_.28AMD-V.29
"Not all recent Intel processors support VT-x as Intel uses
the feature to segment their market"
"AMD markets its virtualization extensions to the 64-bit x86 architecture
as AMD Virtualization, abbreviated AMD-V. It is still referred to as
Pacifica, the AMD internal project code name.
AMD-V capability is also available on Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 X2 family
of processors with "F" or "G" stepping on socket AM2 (not socket 939),
Turion 64 X2, and Opteron 2nd generation[2] and 3rd-generation[3], Phenom
and Phenom II processors. Only Sempron processors except Sable and Huron
do not include support for AMD-V."
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/05/r2e-microsoft-intel-goof-up-windows-7s-xp-mode.ars
Maybe they'll have a sticker that says "half ready", for situations like mine.
Based on the following link, I have a *suspicion* the "capable" sticker will
only cover the upper requirements, and not the optional ones. After all,
one of the distinctions of Windows 7, was the ability to run on lower
horsepower equipment when compared to Vista. So I don't see Microsoft
excluding PCs, because they don't support the optional section. For example,
I don't expect all PCs to ship with TPM overnight, because Windows 7 is coming.
So the Windows XP mode issue will likely be left as a surprise.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements
I recommend the "do your homework" approach.
Paul
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