Re: Computer won't boot up after installing new RAM
- From: Pool <Pool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:04:01 -0700
Hi JS
Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.
New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us
Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us
Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.
"JS" wrote:
If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises.
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.
If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.
Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM
From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm
Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.
But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?
--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com
"Pool" <Pool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi JS
I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using 256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer
PC Health Status
VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK
Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM
Frequency / Voltage Control
CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100
Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100
DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V
Advanced Chipest Features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us
When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything
Please tell me what i shall i do next.
If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again
It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing <Del> key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.
If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see if
all is well.
If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)
Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the
After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings
--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com
"Pool" <Pool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi JS
Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM
Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW
Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T
I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.
"JS" wrote:
There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp
Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.
The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.
--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com
"Pool" <Pool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Everyone
Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.
I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found
Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100
Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.
Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330
New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition
Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478
I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again
"JS" wrote:
Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/modelsinfo.asp?SysID=15538&mfr=Gigabyte&model=GA&search_type=&root=us&LinkBack=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kingston.com&Sys=15538-Gigabyte-GA-8IPE1000%2FGA-8IPE1000-L+Motherboards&distributor=0&submit1=Search
Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=us&LinkBack=http://www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR800D2N6/1G&id=1
Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor
Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For
[Auto]
--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com
"Pool" <Pool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi JS
I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now
i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only
install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote
you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago
The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004
GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x
Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478
Hope that helps.Thanks again
"Pool" wrote:
Hi JS
here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell
me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have
Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM
On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T
Thanks again
"Pool" wrote:
Hi JS
I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why
i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it
could
be
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