Re: Front panel connectors
- From: attilathehun1 <attilathehun1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:59:00 -0700
The tower is a Thermaltake VA8000B Series, part # VA8003 BWS, the mobo is a
GIGABYTE S-series Model # EP35C-DS3R, the E is dark green, the D is orange,
and the rest of the letters and numbers are light green. Is that precise
enough? LOL
-- Ok, I just read the rest of your reply and didn't jump the gun by sending
this reply and then another one.
Alright, so when it wouldn't fire up the first time and few times later,
it wasn't because I had the power switch backwards, your saying it doesn't
matter which way it is? The only reason I'm asking is because in the mobo
manual it stats the + and - on the pictured diagram of the front panel mobo
connectors. I usually stick them on where the outer prongs the face is
pointing outward, towards the end edge of the mobo. With respect to the inner
prongs, for example, where the power switch would go, I point the face inward
towards the middle or away from the edge. That's been a general rule I've
used on the dozen or so PCs I've built and fixed. I see though where or why
your saying about the general colors of the wires. Most are black and white
or white and another color. So, on the black and white, black is negative and
white is positive? Then on the rest that have white and other colors, the
white is negative and the other colors are positive? That seems outta whack.
Why shouldn't all the white be negative, since all have white in them, and
black and the other colors are positive? Wait a sec, let me check, it's dark
now, 10:30 pm, brb. Ok, they are all white with another color, except the
speaker, which is black and red.
I just looked at the front USB1 and USB2, and the prongs on the mobo have 2
rows of prongs, and the tower USB1 and USB2 connectors only have 1 row or
only can go on 1 row. Do you understand what I mean? They are too skiny or
not 8 holes, but only 4 holes. You see? Which prongs do I stick them on, the
one set that has the full set of prongs or the side that has one prong
missing? There are 2 rows of prongs with one side missing one prong or one
prong light. No, I just checked, there are 2 rows with 9 prongs, each. One
row has 5 prongs and 1 row only has 4 prongs. Which would you stick the
Thermaltake USB connector onto? When I tried to fire it up the first time, I
stuck them onto the 5 prong side, not the 4 prong side. It seems like it
would fit the ear mike would fit there. Oh, maybe that's why there is only
one connector for the ear mike. I should stick the ear mike on the those
connectors and the AZALIA and the AC'97 then would both have a place to go.
Also, both the USB1 and USB2 would fit on the connector I stuck the AZALIA
on. I just looked again and unhooked the AZALIA Thermaltake ear mike
connector and it's connected to the F-Audio, right next to the back panel
connectors where you would plug in the speakers. You know, you plug the
speakers into the green connector.
Ok, this is getting long winded and I don't want to confuse you. I'm
thinking that I probably have the ear mike plugs in the right spot. In fact
the USB1 and USB2 on the mobo should connect to the Thermaltake USB1 and USB2
plugs. Right? Oh no, forget all this last part about the AZALIA and AC'97
connectors. I see they can only go onto the F-Audio. I'm just wondering which
one, and someone told me in a reply some time ago, use the AZALIA instead of
the AC'97, if there is only one connector.
Ok, also I see on the USB1 and USB2, well on the USB2, I can't find the
USB1 right now in the tangle of wires at 10:55 pm with the ceiling light. I
see 5 connectors on the one row so I figure it must go onto the 5 prongs not
the 4 prongs of the 9 prong set connector.
I think this is getting to be unending. LOL
Any more help would be greatly appreciated.
attilathehun1
"Paul" wrote:
attilathehun1 wrote:.
Ok, I don't need any wise cracks here about that I'm a noobie, OK! If you
have that to say, say it to the other noobie, not me.
Ok, there is a red wire and black wire on the tower front panel connector
to the mobo front panel connector. Which is positive and which is negative,
for the power switch? If I had to guess, I'd say the red is positive, and
the black is negative, just like on the car battery chargers. There are other
front panel connectors too, and those each have 2 wires, like the reset
switch, one is blue and the other white, which is positive and which is
negative? Then there is the hard drive LED, one is orange and the other is
white, which is positive and which negative. The last one is the micro sw.,
one is black and one is white, which is positive and which negative? Well,
that might be redundant. We already have a black and white switch. There are
a couple more, the speaker, which is 2 wires, black and white, even though
there are 4 prongs for the connector. The other one is a 3 prong connector,
which is the power LED, one is blue and one is white.
Ok, is that precise enough for a reply? I don't need any smart ass answers
here. If you know the answers, then I know your someone with experience. If
not, your just a jealous non-bite.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, attilathehun1
Make and model of computer case ?
Make and model of motherboard ?
In a few cases, you may find a mismatch in the span of the connector,
versus the span of the interface on the front panel header. For example,
on proprietary motherboards (inside HP, Dell, Gateway type computers),
the wiring may all be 2 pin with 0.1" between pins. Yet, on some
computer cases, the SPKR wire has two wires with 0.3" between them.
As long as you don't have a problem like that, the wiring is
relatively easy.
1) For Power switch and Reset switch, the switch is not polarized.
The contacts are floating, and you can ignore the polarity when
hooking it up. It won't matter.
2) For Power LED, Hard Drive LED, Message LED or the like, the
LED *is* polarized. But there is no harm to the LED, if you
get it wrong. If the LED won't light up, simply flip the
connector 180 degrees and try again. The LEDs all have a
Peak Inverse Voltage (PIV) rating of 5 volts or more, and
can safely be reversed without damage. That is why they use
a current limited 5V source to drive them.
The terminals on the computer case speaker, are floating
with respect to chassis ground, so again, there should not
be a polarity issue with SPKR wiring.
In terms of "which wire is the minus or negative", what
I've noticed is that the "common" color used on the wire,
is likely the negative one. For example, if you had a
dozen wires in your hand, and six were white colored, then
the white could be the "negative" or "minus" color. The
positive wires tend to use different colors, and are
more uniquely colored than the negative ones. While it
would be nice if they stuck with a black color for the
negative side of the connector, the case makers don't seem
to adhere to that rule.
HTH,
Paul
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