Re: Dell Inspirion refuses to charge battery.

Rahul wrote:
On Apr 7, 11:29 pm, Lem <lem...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Given that the replacement battery you bought was "guaranteed to be
E1505 compatible" but doesn't seem to work on your E1505, perhaps you
ought to get in touch with Kahlon support.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP


Thanks Lem! I guess I'll return it to Kahlon. I just think its unfair
to Kahlon though. I strongly feel its Dell who's introducing
artificial obstacles. What if I added Samsung RAM, or a Segate HDD
the BIOS would complain. Like I replied to another post: I just might
burn away my depreciated 700$ and hack away with Linux and a flashed
BIOS to make a point! (of course, assuming there's a way out! :-) )
The whole PC industry is based on fungible parts and I hate to believe
Dell deserves an exception!

--
Rahul

I doubt I'll be able to find a complete picture of how it all works,
but perhaps these links will help.

"The smart battery"
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-17.htm

PDF page 14 here, has examples of info supplied by the battery,
to the computer. The Dell software could be barfing, based on
something it is reading. (It is not unheard of, for a knockoff
maker of a piece of hardware, to not know how to program
something.)

http://www2.altiris.com/docs/partners/WP_%20OMCI.pdf

A little info on fuel gauges for batteries.

http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/an_pk/3958

Ultimately, Kahlon made a guarantee of compatibility, which means
they've read articles like the ones above, and understand their
responsibilities. If they were completely clueless, then they
should test the battery they intend to sell, with the laptop
they intend to use it with. If they understand what all the pins
do, what data should be populated in an EEPROM or whatever, then
they should be able to figure out, based on your symptom description,
how they screwed up (sent wrong battery to you or whatever).

The original Dell battery worked with the laptop. Even if Dell is
slimy, for making the battery technology so "Smart", that should
not prevent an aftermarket manufacturer, from "copying exactly".
If they can make fake Nikes, they should be able to make a battery
that works for you.

What has happened to you, is one reason I'll never own a laptop.
Every time the laptop has a problem, someone has their hand out,
looking for $200.00 :-( Even to have someone "look" at a laptop,
and make a superficial diagnosis, costs $200. And now that a
battery factory burned just recently, there is no reason for
the price of batteries to come down. When I looked at the prices
on the Dell site, I was shocked.

Paul
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