Re: Windows XP Boot Up Hang, USB Router



In my opinion Ethernet cable connections are better than USB and
preferable to Wireless.

Did you get the drivers for the BT Voyager from the original disk or
updated drivers from the manufacturers web site. BT have an annoying
habit of providing disks containing out of date drivers and not telling
you where to go for updated drivers. They were promoting hard and
distributing Home Hubs a month after Vista was launched which were not
compatible with Vista

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Moz wrote:
ta Paul, thanks a lot for the tiem and effort you spent looking into
it, fortunately I will soon be getting a router that has 2 ethernet
ports for me to use, will using ethernet definately avoid this issue?

"Paul" wrote:

Moz wrote:
I'm having a problem with Windows XP I've been working on a couple
of days, this is the situation I'm in now...

My router has been working fine for months on Vista, but then it
stopped working and I decided to change to XP just for simplicity,
now when the drivers for my router (BT Voyager 2091) are installed
on a fresh couple of Windows XP using a USB connection from router
to PC, my PC is prevented from booting, it hangs just after the XP
loading screen, just before login sceen is meant to appear, sits
there with a blank screen. Once the drivers are installed and I
plug the cable into ANY of the 6 USB ports, I cant start up my
computer, if I wait till the computer is started before plugging in
the USB cable to the router, the internet will not work anyway, and
the computer will hang when shutting down.

So in summary, with my USB router cable in, the computer cannot
start or shut down and the internet connection cant be detected,
but with it taken out the computer works fine, but of course the
internet wont work in either of these circumstances and this is
what I need.

Curiously, I also had the same problem with Vista, I tried moving
to XP and that got me here with the same problem, but XP is the one
I want to get working for now.

P.S. I have my network drivers installed for my mobo and this
router is currently working fine for another computer connected to
it by etherent at the same time. I have also tried formatted my hd
and reinstalled windows a few times tryin different things to no
avail.


Perhaps you could use an Ethernet switch to work around the USB
problem ?
http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworkhardware/f/routervsswitch.htm

Your BT 8091 has DHCP and is a router, so takes the place of
"Computer 1" in
this diagram.

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworking/ig/Home-Network-Diagrams/Hub-Switch-Network-Diagram.htm

The BT 2091 specs are here.

http://www.voyager.bt.com/wireless_devices/voyager_2091/product_info.htm

Switches are pretty cheap - $10 to $30 should cover it. Check the
reviews before buying.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000400030&Configurator=&Subcategory=30

If you want to look at your USB connection, you can try:

1) Boot computer without device connected.
2) Plug in the USB connection.
3) Use UVCview from Microsoft, to see if the hardware is visible or
not.

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/vidcap/UVCViewdwn.mspx

This is an example of a USB device, as seen in the Microsoft viewer.

http://image.donanimhaber.com/image.php/upfiles/110425/3FD99DDFA65948369B268428AE86E66A.jpg

The downloadable driver from the BT site, makes reference to
"USB8023".

http://static.btopenworld.com/broadband/adhoc_pages/drivers/BT_Voyager_USB_win_v74.zip

At first, the 8023 number ("USB8023") flew over my head. But after a
bit of searching, it occurred to me that the number refers to IEEE
802.3 Ethernet standard.
It could well be, that modern versions of Windows actually have an
NDIS
driver for a USB to Ethernet adapter, that would have worked. It is
possible that you didn't need a driver to get that connection to work
at all. If the BT device didn't follow the rules, then a custom
driver
would be required, but a designer would be stupid to do that.

The INF file in the driver package references USB\VID_069A&PID_0318.
That VID belongs to Askey Computer Corp askey.com.tw . So the ADSL
modem/router claims to be made by Askey. If you got their more
expensive unit,
it has more Ethernet connectors on it, and is a better fit for most
home users. USB is really a poor choice for a network interface.
Pumping data over Ethernet is less work for the computer.

So take a look with UVCView, and see if VID_069A PID_0318 shows up
or not.
If it doesn't show up, there could be a hardware problem with the BT
device.

Note - I'm not a networking expert, so perhaps someone else can make
a suggestion on a home networking config. I use a wired router for my
Ethernet ports, and that is becaus my ADSL modem contains no router.
My
wired router terminates the PPPOE protocol. Your BT device does all
of
that for itself, which is why I suspect a cheap switch is enough to
get
you more Ethernet ports.

Paul


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