Re: conflict of software Nero Recordnow Drivers - or ??

Okay, I read what you wrote to Rich and I see where a couple of big mistakes
were made.

Just some info first... Sonic used to be an independant brand but it was
bought up by Roxio. DirectCD was originally a product of Adaptec, but Roxio
bought up the Adaptec software line too. So Roxio now owns and distributes
both RecordNow and EasyCD Creator software. Plus some other CD/DVD burning
titles.

Ahead is the name of the company that makes the Nero software.

DLA is not compatible with DirectCD, to the extent that the CD/DVD drives
won't work if both programs are on the computer. DLA is also not compatible
with Nero's InCD, Roxio's Drag to Disk, or Windows XP built in burning
software. If you want to use DLA you have to disable Windows XP burning
feature. Older versions of DLA are not compatible with XP SP2 at all.

From what you told Rich, you won't be able to uninstall DLA now because you
went ahead and deleted all those Roxio/Sonic folders and registry items.
Doing that deleted files and entries that Windows needs to uninstall DLA.
The way out of that predicament is to reinstall the programs that you
deleted the files and registry entries for. Then uninstall the programs
again if that is what you want. Don't delete anything unless you know for
certain that it isn't needed. DLA might have its own separate installer so
check for that.

To see if they are running, open Windows Task Manager [Ctrl-Alt-Del or right
click on the System Tray] and look through the list under Processes for
"DirectCD" and "InCd". If they aren't there and they aren't showing up in
Add or Remove Programs then they might not be installed at all.

Do I need to format every disk I buy?
The old floppy's came out with "formatted", but I don't see that on the
disk package anywhere. If Not when Would I format a disk?

For most normal disc burning projects, music CDs, playable DVDs, Photo CDs,
etc., you would NEVER format the disc. For one thing, formatting uses up
over 100megabytes of space from the disc. Once formatted you cannot use the
disc for any of the purposes I mentioned. Of course if it is a CDRW or DVDRW
you can totally erase it again in RecordNow or Nero and use it for whatever
you want.

You generally only format discs for one reason, and that is to be able to
use the disc like a floppy. That means being able to save or copy
files/folders onto the disk at random and be able to erase individual files
or folders when no longer needed. Normally you would only format CDRW's but
you can format CDRs too. The difference is that when you decide to delete
files from a CDRW you get all the space back to use again. If you "delete"
files from a formatted CDR, the file is removed from the list but the space
it used up is permanently gone. These fomatted discs are only usable in
computers and only if those computers have the same UDF software on them
that the the discs were formatted with.

To complement that "use like a floppy" functionality the UDF software can
run in the background all the time, meaning it is always turned on, waiting
for you to do something that requires it to function.

Back when I still used DirectCD the software put a UDF reader installation
file on the CDs that I formatted. The installer did nothing on my own
computer but if the disk was put into a different computer that did not
already have DirectCD or EasyCD Creator on it, then the installer would kick
in and install DirectCD reading software. It makes sense if you need the
DirectCD disc to be read on a different computer but it wreaks havoc if that
computer already has a competing software product on it. I haven't had any
use for UDF formatted discs in a long while.

This next bit I don't understand...

to - for anything I was trying to do. Now in place of the DAL it says:
Use with Ping{ No pconfig}

Ping is a networking command, nothing to do with disc burning.

As far as DLA making discs more compatible, it should do just the opposite.
DLA formatted disks should not be compatible with any non-computer disc
hardware and on computers only those which also have DLA. In order to make
DLA discs readable in other computers or devices Roxio has a utility
to convert them. I don't know but I think it is a one-way process.


"buddyorliz" <buddyorliz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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RalfG,
I think I am starting to get the picture.

I did format one of my Disc I don't remember if I did it in the CD drive
or
DVD drive, I have no idea if I even used a program.. Maybe the programs
are
automatic. I think I just put it in and right clicked the drive and then
format - it probable was automatic with Roxie as I remember the DLA thing.

Do I need to format every disk I buy?
The old floppy's came out with "formatted", but I don't see that on the
disk package anywhere. If Not when Would I format a disk?

I have uninstalled everything (Sonic Recordnow And Nero) in Full EXCEPT
the
Sonic DLA, it will not uninstall.

If when I formatted the disk in installed an UDF reader, do I need to
uninstall it too, if so how?

I know I did have DLA, On both drives and I was using when asked if I
wanted
to - for anything I was trying to do. Now in place of the DAL it says:
Use with Ping{ No pconfig}

I had read a little about the DLA but all I understood was using it made
more CD or DVD's play in more players (car stereo's DVD players...) That
was
Why I used it, was having some issues with them playing in one of my DVD
players.

Maybe you have read my other Reply to Rich and possible you can see what I
have been doing- though my DVD drive still won't recognize Disks, do you
think I am on the right Track?
Will reinstalling Sonic Record now possible make it work?
And in case I don't get an answer about Roxie being the same thing or part
of Sonic Recordnow - can you tell me?

I thank you for your time too,
Liz


"RalfG" wrote:

Hmmm,,, seems to me that Direct CD is the UDF burning/reading software
for
CDRWs that belongs to the older Roxio/Adaptec EasyCd Creator software.
It
could be the cause of your problems. The reader portion of DirectCD can
be
installed automatically/accidentally from any UDF formatted disks that
were
made with the Roxio/Adaptec software.

Having that UDF reader/writing program installed can certainly conflict
with
either or both of Nero and RecordNow, especially if you also have their
version of UDF reading/burning program installed.

Nero's UDF burning application is called InCD. RecordNow uses, or did
use,
an app called DLA (Drive Letter Access) to do the same thing. These are
all
UDF burning applications for CDRWs that run as TSRs on your computer.
They
all do basically the same thing, format (and write to) CDRW disks so that
you can use them like floppy discs, but AFAIK the discs they make are not
compatible with each other's systems. You should not have more than one
of
these installed on the computer.




"buddyorliz" <buddyorliz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I thought I did restore it to that point - it did go away, but my drive
still
didnt work. I also un-installed Nero but that didnt do it either.
Somewhere
along the line I read they had some kind of conflicts - with the driver
or
nero's virtual drive (direct CD ??) I think I too have Nero 6 and
RecordNow 7
or 7.1 - I'm thinking now that un-installing both of them is not going
to
get
my drive to work again, but I am going to try it today. Hoping atleast
by
uninstalling them both it will stop further issues they might cause.

Thanks and I'll let you know.

"RalfG" wrote:

You should be able to restore the computer to a point before you
installed
Nero and get rid of it that way. The restore you already did was
apparently
to a point after Nero was installed, so it got put back on but was
only
partially recovered. Re-installing Nero then uninstalling it again is
another way that should get rid of the unwanted files and drivers.
Reboots
required at each step.

FWIW, I have both Nero and RecordNow on this computer without having
any
problems, but both are slightly older versions (Nero 6, RecordNow 7)
and
that could be the difference.


"buddyorliz" <buddyorliz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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If a Disk came with my Dell computer, then Yes I should still have
it.

If not - and because of un installing them I CAN use my drive again,
I
can
always buy something. I was kind of worrid about not having it,
and
not
wanting to use the Nero again and then being Without a program to
burn
stuff,
but... With out a drive they dont do me much good - well actually my
CDRW
drive does work, but it won' hold much, nor do the disks work well
with
other
DVD players (which was the first issue I started having -since I
knew
nothing
about any of it) As I'm sure you know Not All players read All
Disks.


"Rich Barry" wrote:

Try Uninstalling both Programs. Do you still have the Record
Now
Installer on a CD?
"buddyorliz" <buddyorliz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
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As with most who post questions, I do not know much about these
kinds
of
things but have tried to include everything I know so as to speed
up
questions and answers.

How can I uninstall everything relating to NERO, it seams to have
caused
my
new DVDRW drive to quit working - It will not read Any type of
dics,
always
says "Please insert disk into Drive D:" If I can get rid of Just
its
Drivers
I may fix my problem.

I have had recordnow on this XP for a couple years and No
problems
(though
I
haven't used it much). I put a DVD drive in and loaded the
software
that
came
with it - thinking I had to... I burned a couple disks then
starting
having
some issues like DVD drive would change names - back and forth
CD -
DVD -
and
other issues cant remember. So as I was in the middle of
learning
how
to
burn things tried to use Recordnow again, I think it did work
kept
going
back
and forth (was getting confused but seamed different things kept
happening).
NOW no CD or DVD will play or show up, Every different disk from
new
movies,
Blank CD-R, CD-RW, DVD+R and video DVD-RW, nor any music CD's I
have -
everyone I try to open I get the message "please insert disk into
Drive
D"
Of
course there is a disk in it.

I have spent the last 4 days at about 7 hours each day searching
the
internet for possible cause and nothing has worked. Have stopped
antivirus -
Norton from running to see if it was blocking a driver or
something.
Ran
device and every other scan I could find. Uninstalled and
reinstalled
the
drive. used system restore (used in Safe mode so it would not let
me
undo
it
-as it didn't help). Uninstalled nero - didn't help - then it
came
back
when
I messed with the restore. Checked on Dell web as there was some
kind
of
issue, but didn't exactly relate so did nothing there. The last
suggestion
was regarding the Nero and Recordnow having conflicting Drivers,
evidently
when you have Recordnow (or other software like this) and then
install
Nero
It messes things up and even after uninstalling Nero- Recordnow
will
not
work, the suggestion was Roxie might have connected to the NERO
virtual
drive. Is the only solution to uninstall Recordnow too?

Nero support wants me to use their clean tool but that will
disconnect
the
drivers from Recordnow, which is the program I prefer to use.
Recordnow
has
no actual place to ask them how to keep Roxie and get rid of
Nero.

Until I found out about this possible issue I was concerned my
DVD
drive
was
done for... I don't mind buying a new one (though this has only
been
in
two
weeks) I just don't know if it would do any good, I mean seams if
the
drive
issue is the problem then I would Still have that issue. I don't
know
how
to
figure out if the Drive is broken or or or.

If I uninstalled Both programs, would that also get rid of all
the
drivers
So when I started over there would not be these issues?

Gosh that about covers it, and Thanks in advance just for reading
it
all.












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