Re: Dual boot & master/slave

Lady Dungeness wrote:
Hi Anna, I was hoping you'd respond. I don't know if you recall, but I posted
a month ago that I was going to have a good breakfast and schedule 4
hours to do the HD installation.

I'm now on day 3. I am NOT familiar with jumper settings -- I just
learned about that from reading the installation instructions. I
understand that the 15 gig drive is old. I don't have a job; I don't
have money. So even $20 is a lot of money for me. Right now, I'm not
ready to buy another drive. The Samsung will be useful to me. In
case the WD fails, I can boot with Samsung and continue my work
without delay. I will also use it for my non-business online
activities, downloading, etc.

I don't know Pata or Sata. My drive says EIDE.

If I have to look at the current *old* Samsung drive to learn the
jumper settings, that means I have to take it out of the computer. I
don't want to do that, if possible.

I WILL have two drives, and WILL have a dual boot.

Let me confirm: I should set the new WESTERN DIGITAL as SECONDAY
MASTER.

The installation instructions tell me to first install it as PRIMARY
SLAVE. Then I run their software. I don't know what their software
does.

What about the Samsung? Do you think it's jumpered now as
SINGLE/jumperless? Or Primary Master, or what?

What should I do next? I am afraid of computers. :-(

Lady Dungeness
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 22:18:05 -0400, "Anna" <myname@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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|"Lady Dungeness" <Lady.Dungeness@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message |news:uspt83lccfighqs6ek7es9s198164onjsf@xxxxxxxxxx
|> I'm trying to install a new Western Digital 160 gig hard drive. The
|> old harddrive is SAMSUNG SV1533D. <snip>
|> 1. If I'm going to have a dual-boot configuration, does it really
|> matter?
|> 2. If it matters, I'll want the new WESTERN DIGITAL to be the master,
|> and make the Samsung the slave.
|> 3. How do I do this?
|> 4. What do I do next?
|>
|> Lady Dungeness
|> Crabby, but Great Legs!
|
|
|Lady D.
|Your Samsung HDD is really "old-in-the-tooth" to say the least. It's a 15 GB |HDD, and honestly, it's an ancient relic by today's standards. I can't |imagine that it will serve any useful purpose in your system. With hard |drives selling as low as 25 cents per GB in today's market, can you possibly |afford another new HDD that you could profitably use in your system in |either a dual-boot configuration or simply as a secondary HDD? That really |would be the practical & wisest way to go in my view.
|
|I'm assuming, of course, that your 160 GB WD is a PATA, and not a SATA HDD. |As such, it should ordinarily be set up as Primary Master in your system. |Apparently you're familiar with jumper settings and general HDD connections. |So that the WD HDD would be connected as Master on the Primary IDE |controller of your motherboard.
|
|There is, however, one minor complicating matter involving modern WD HDDs |that you should be aware of. If, for one reason or another, there is no |device connected as a Slave on the same data cable that is connected to the |WD drive, the jumper setting should be set as Single and not Master. |Actually with modern WD PATA HDDs - presumably such as the one you have - a |Single setting is "jumperless". So just be aware of this.
|
|Assuming you do establish a dual-boot configuration with another HDD, it |probably would be best if you connected/configured it as Secondary Master, |although it may function (boot) without problems even if connected as |Primary Slave. But generally Secondary Master is the preferred |configuration.
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|If, on the other hand, you use another HDD merely as a secondary drive for |storage/backup purposes, then it really doesn't matter whether it's |connected as a Slave on the Primary IDE channel or anywhere on the Secondary |IDE channel.
|Anna |

I can find two references to jumpers. This is the page that is easy to find,
and has me confused as to what they're up to. There are eight combinations
depicted here.

http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/support/Download/userguide/usersguide_02.htm

I got lucky, and found a Samsung PDF manual. I could only find the one, so cannot
compare a bunch of them. Have a look at PDF page 25 (section 4.5).

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/lwgt/myoldvdr/V40ProductManual.pdf

Between the two manuals, what I gather from that, is there are three vertical
jumper positions. From right to left, they are "Master", "Clip", and "Cable Select".
The left-most position doesn't have a stated purpose. And "Slave" uses no jumper.

The horizontal jumper positions, appear to be storage positions. In "Slave"
mode, the two jumpers are put in their storage positions.

In other words, if you buy a Samsung drive that is less than 32GB in size,
Samsung only needs to provide the one jumper. If the drive is bigger than 32GB in
size, it comes with two jumpers (in case you need to clip the drive to 32GB). With
the two jumpers, when the second jumper is not being used, it needs to be "parked".
Thus the horizontal storage position.

Note that this is a guess on my part. There is one brand of drives, where the
horizontal positions are used for functions. What I'm relying on here, is
comparing the six jumper block combinations shown in the PDF manual, to the
eight combinations shown on the web site. Based on the two sources of info,
my best guess is that the horizontal positions are storage positions, so you
won't lose the jumpers.

Paul
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