Re: AMD vs Intel

One last question before I put you on my ignore list;

If Intel had a chip that could best AMD by 20%, do you think they would sit
on it until September?

I think they needed some publicity for the following reasons:

1. Three straight quarters of revenue loss.
2. three straight quarters of marketshare loss (to AMD).
3. Three straight quarters of public stock price declines.
4. Three straight quarters of Server market loss to AMD.

There are other reasons, but the ones above are the most obvious. Intel
does not have a chip that will out perform AMD *TODAY*, so they created a
non production chip on a non production motherboard and created a series of
synthetic tests to make that nonexistent chip outperform and AMD chip on a
two generations old motherboard, with outdated BIOS, and not using the same
memory type as what was on the Intel fabrication rig.

I won't run out and buy a Conroe when they are released. I will wait until
there is some valid third party testing under more realistic conditions. As
I stated earlier, I buy what give me the best "bang for my buck". That
certainly won't be a Conroe.
I give credit where credit is due. Intel has not made a competitive chip in
18 months. If and when they make a chip that can give AMD a run for the
money, I'll look at it. But the idea of buying a chip that will be locked
to a chipset and motherboard is not attractive. Just look at the history of
the Pentium 4 when it comes to upgradeability, and then look at AMD. Does
the Intel approach make sense to you?
(Ooops...forgot who I was talking to here...you wouldn't know "sense" if you
tripped over it).

Bobby

"Ryan" <Ryan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:294B0DA4-8403-4406-8E30-94AF45CD42E3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
All I know Bobby, you can say what you want just like the rest of these
AMD
morons, this "nonexistent core" you claim is not nonexistent to you
because
it hasn't released.

Well, Bobby, mark my words: I guarantee you, you will be back on Intel's
side again real soon after Conroe releases.

Picture this: It is sometime in January 2007. I send you a message to this
same newsgroup.

Me: Hey, Bobby, what chip are you running these days?
Bobby: (Big silence) Uh ....um, I'm running one of those Conroe chips.
Me: What?!?! I thought you were hardcore AMD guy. What's going on?
Bobby: Well, I must admit, it appears back when you and I were going back
and forth in that thread in March of last year, you were right. I was dead
wrong about Conroe. I was the one who had their head in the sand.
Me: What do you mean you were dead wrong about Conroe?
Bobby: Back when all those benchmarks at the Intel IDF were posted, I had
my
major suspicion. I will admit I had major doubts about Intel, but now I
can
really see who is the real leader in processors. I deeply apologize and
realize I was the idiot who was narrow minded and did not have a clue
about
Conroe in the first place.

"NoNoBadDog!" wrote:

Ryan is truly incapable of any rational thought. He has based his entire
happiness on a bogus test of a nonexistent core, and thinks it means
something in the real world. He calls those who do not see things his
way
names, and thinks that Intel is the leader today. He does not have his
head
in the sand, but the rest of the world knows just where his head is...and
the sun don't shine there, either!

Bobby

"techmate" <techmate.24p9g9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ryan

If you want this discussion to be any fruitfull do have a good look at
AMD also.
its good if you so strongly like something, but what are you trying to
prove? All AMD users are blind fools.
Let me tell you one thing, most of us AMD users today have had an Intel
before.
We have seen the brighter side of both, and believe me brother we've
chosen the BEST.
let me explain you differently,
when you weigh two things on a balance, you keep the two on either
sides of
the balance and then conclude which is heavier. but you my friend are
just looking at Intel and shouting "its the best" ,damn it put AMD on
the other side before jumping on conclusions.Look at AMD not just
Intel!
like us, judge both and choose the best.
there's a wise saying,
"Those who dont bend, finally BREAK"
The day you'll realise AMD's potential and Intel's bluff, you'll
finally breakdown
hard.


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