Re: Resequence Hard Drive Connections

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Need to add something here as a supplement to the other message (today).
In Safe Mode, the files run through MUP.SYS, and then everything stops.
While looking at a web site about that, someone said they disabled Quick
Post in their BIOS. If I can ever get back into the BIOS, I'll try that.

Toyman
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"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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: Toyman
:
: Yes.. you click on the SG, and format it.. NTFS of course..
:
: Re. Acronis.. http://www.acronis.com/ .. to the right of the page, see
: TrueImage 9.. note the 'TRIAL' version, fully working, but just not
: forever..
:
: Re. Word, do an Office repair with the Office CD..
:
: --
: Mike Hall
: MVP - Windows Shell/User
:
:
: "The Toyman" <o1nyx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
: news:AzxBf.722505$x96.437817@xxxxxxxxxxxx
: > Mike,
: > Yes, it worked OK with only the WD attached, so I 'slaved' the SG, and
: > both
: > run OK, although as I said MS Word won't close normally - spontaneously
: > reboots the system.
: >
: > I'll format the SG tomorrow (Wednesday) per your instructions. Am I
safe
: > in
: > assuming that after going to "My Computer - right click and select
: > 'Manage'.. when the window opens, go to Storage - Disk Management. . ."
I
: > simply right-click the SG and select Format (or select the SG, click
: > Actions-Format)? Just want to be sure, since I don't see FORMAT as a
: > visible primary selection.
: >
: > I looked at the trial download page at acronis.com - is Snap Deploy the
: > one
: > I'm after?
: >
: > Toyman
: > _________________________________________________
: >
: > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
: > news:uDUP6EGIGHA.596@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > : Toyman
: > :
: > : Have you run it with the WD drive only attached?.. does it work ok?..
if
: > : everything is there and kind of working, put the SG back as slave and
: > format
: > : it using the XP native tools..
: > :
: > : My Computer - right click and select 'Manage'.. when the window opens,
: > go
: > to
: > : Storage - Disk Management..
: > :
: > : Format the Seagate.. when done, close out of the window..
: > :
: > : Now you need to go to www.acronis.com and download Acronis TrueImage..
: > use
: > : this program to clone the OS onto the second drive..
: > :
: > : Follow the instructions implicitly.. at the end of the process, you
: > should
: > : have an SG that will boot to Windows.. obviously, you have to remove
the
: > WD,
: > : jumper the SG as master, and reboot..
: > :
: > : OK.. does the SG work ok?.. do all of the programs work as well as
they
: > did
: > : on the WD?..
: > :
: > : If the answer is YES..
: > :
: > : You can now jumper the WD as slave, install it back into the case and
: > format
: > : it as you did the SG..
: > :
: > : The part where you do have a problem.. you need XP installation media
on
: > CD
: > : to be able to fix the problems with the OS, and installation media for
: > any
: > : other program on the computer that has a problem..
: > :
: > : --
: > : Mike Hall
: > : MVP - Windows Shell/User
: > :
: > :
: > : "The Toyman" <o1nyx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
: > : news:KFaBf.752216$xm3.532757@xxxxxxxxxxxx
: > : > OK guys.
: > : > I've got the drives resequenced and running, with the WD as master,
SG
: > as
: > : > slave (both on IDE1), and the optical drive alone on IDE2. Programs
: > run
: > : > although with an occasional hiccup - e.g. the system spontaneously
: > : > rebooted
: > : > when I closed a MS Word file - every time. As I look closer, I'm
: > finding
: > : > identical program files on both the WD & the SG drive - like MS
Word.
: > : > Seems
: > : > as if when the SG was originally installed, a lot of program files
: > were
: > : > copied to it during the install. Things just don't feel 'stable'.
I
: > : > suspect there's a major catastrophe (O/S reinstall) in my future.
: > : >
: > : > Unless you disagree, I think my next step should be to remove as
many
: > : > unnecessary files and replaceable programs as possible from the
older
: > WD,
: > : > so
: > : > there's room to install SP 2, then format and partition the SG so
it's
: > : > ready
: > : > to be cloned from the WD. After the SG is cloned, I'll resequence
it
: > to
: > : > be
: > : > the boot master , then if all is well, wipe the WD slave for other
: > use.
: > : >
: > : > If you know, tell me a bit about installing XP, SP 2. Will it
prompt
: > for
: > : > the XP O/S disk, to verify authenticity? And have you heard of any
: > : > problems
: > : > with installation crashing the system, necessitating an O/S
reinstall?
: > Or
: > : > should I look elsewhere?
: > : >
: > : > Thanks for the help to-date.
: > : >
: > : > Toyman
: > : > ______________________________
: > : >
: > : > "The Toyman" <o1nyx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
: > : > news:oVUAf.725703$_o.33361@xxxxxxxxxxxx
: > : > :I need to resequence an existing hard drive setup for a friend. He
: > added
: > : > a
: > : > : 160GB Seagate (SG) to supplement a 13GB Western Digital Caviar
(WD).
: > The
: > : > : Seagate is jumpered as a master - shows up in the BIOS as Primary
: > master
: > : > : (plugged into IDE1 connector). The Western Dig. is jumpered as a
: > single
: > : > : drive (only drive in the box), and shows up in the BIOS as a
: > Secondary
: > : > : master. I think it's showing as Secondary master because it was
: > plugged
: > : > : into IDE2 connector on a separate cable. I'll change that to have
: > both
: > : > on
: > : > : the same cable going to IDE1. Boot files were copied from the WD
to
: > the
: > : > SG,
: > : > : and the system boots from the SG.
: > : > :
: > : > : All programs are on the WD, but the Registry thinks they're still
on
: > the
: > : > : boot drive (the SG) At least programs won't run from the Start
: > button -
: > : > : will run OK from the executable file. To try to hopefully 'fix'
: > things,
: > : > I
: > : > : hope to:
: > : > :
: > : > : 1. unplug the SG (pull the power & data cable) so the PC sees
: > the
: > WD
: > : > as
: > : > : the boot drive
: > : > : 2. boot the PC
: > : > : 3. install XP, SP 2 (so the machine will see all avail. space
on
: > the
: > : > : SG). Have it on CD from MS. SP 1 has not been installed.
: > : > : 4. plug in the SG and jumper it as slave, and jumper the WD as
: > : > master
: > : > : 5. boot the PC
: > : > : 6. run Partition Magic (PM) and use the 'copy' function to
copy
: > : > : (mirror?) all files from the WD to the SG.
: > : > : 7. Rejumper the SG as master, and the WD as slave
: > : > : 8. Cross my fingers, boot the beast, and hope it works.
: > : > :
: > : > : Here's a major problem: The XP Pro O/S disk is lost, so if I need
: > to
: > : > re-do
: > : > : the O/S, I'm up the proverbial 'crick' without the proverbial
: > paddle.
: > : > :
: > : > : Here's some questions:
: > : > :
: > : > : 1. I've heard from others who have tried to install SP 2, that
: > it
: > : > : could: 1) lock/freeze the O/S, necessitating an O/S reinstall; 2)
: > the
: > : > O/S
: > : > : disk must be inserted to verify it's a legitimate copy before SP 2
: > will
: > : > : install. Having no O/S disk will put me up that 'crick'. Any
: > thoughts
: > : > : here?
: > : > :
: > : > : 2. After I do #'s 1 & 2 above (unplug the SG & boot the PC),
is
: > : > there
: > : > : anything I need to do in the BIOS or Windows - e.g. remove the SG
: > from
: > : > the
: > : > : BIOS, or will that happen automatically? And how about Windows?
: > : > :
: > : > : 3. I assume plugging in the SG (#4 & 5 above) will simply be a
: > case
: > : > of
: > : > : 'follow the instructions', which I have.
: > : > :
: > : > : 4. Also, when reinstalling the SG, should I format & partition
: > it,
: > : > or
: > : > : leave it alone, since it's formatted, partitioned and in use now?
: > : > :
: > : > : 5. I've tried running PM from the boot floppy & CD, but keep
: > getting
: > : > an
: > : > : error message about 'the hard disks are recognized, and the
: > appropriate
: > : > : software is installed, but hasn't been activated' (not the exact
: > words,
: > : > but
: > : > : close). Then it goes back to a DOS prompt. Since the WD wasn't
on
: > the
: > : > same
: > : > : cable as the SG, nor jumpered as a slave, I'm hoping that
: > : > : recabling/rejumpering it will 'fix' this problem. If not, then I
: > guess
: > : > I'll
: > : > : be back for more help. Comments here would be appreciated.
: > : > :
: > : > : Here's another thought re PM: I've never used PM for this purpose
: > : > before
: > : > : (have Norton Ghost, but have never used it and know nothing about
: > it).
: > : > I'm
: > : > : assuming that the drive with all of the programs (the WD) needs to
: > be
: > : > the
: > : > : boot drive (maybe not?). I wonder if it's possible to copy all
: > files
: > : > from
: > : > : the WD to the SG, with the SG as the boot drive & the WD as the
: > slave.
: > : > Then
: > : > : I could simply try to install SP 2 onto the SG, and if successful,
: > use
: > : > PM
: > : > to
: > : > : copy all files from the WD to the SG. That's if I can get past
the
: > : > boot,
: > : > : error message.
: > : > :
: > : > : This entire operation should be pretty straight-forward, but since
I
: > : > don't
: > : > : have experience, don't know how to respond to the PM error
messages,
: > and
: > : > : especially since I don't have an XP Pro O/S disk, I'm reluctant to
: > 'damn
: > : > the
: > : > : torpedoes, full speed ahead'.
: > : > :
: > : > : Comments, observations & opinions are welcome, particularly if you
: > have
: > : > : experience with some or all of this.
: > : > :
: > : > : I've been to the 'windowsxp.newusers' group - it was suggested I
: > come
: > : > here.
: > : > :
: > : > : Toyman
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : >
: > : >
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