Re: Resequence Hard Drive Connections

Toyman

Yes.. you click on the SG, and format it.. NTFS of course..

Re. Acronis.. http://www.acronis.com/ .. to the right of the page, see
TrueImage 9.. note the 'TRIAL' version, fully working, but just not
forever..

Re. Word, do an Office repair with the Office CD..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"The Toyman" <o1nyx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:AzxBf.722505$x96.437817@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Mike,
> Yes, it worked OK with only the WD attached, so I 'slaved' the SG, and
> both
> run OK, although as I said MS Word won't close normally - spontaneously
> reboots the system.
>
> I'll format the SG tomorrow (Wednesday) per your instructions. Am I safe
> in
> assuming that after going to "My Computer - right click and select
> 'Manage'.. when the window opens, go to Storage - Disk Management. . ." I
> simply right-click the SG and select Format (or select the SG, click
> Actions-Format)? Just want to be sure, since I don't see FORMAT as a
> visible primary selection.
>
> I looked at the trial download page at acronis.com - is Snap Deploy the
> one
> I'm after?
>
> Toyman
> _________________________________________________
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uDUP6EGIGHA.596@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> : Toyman
> :
> : Have you run it with the WD drive only attached?.. does it work ok?.. if
> : everything is there and kind of working, put the SG back as slave and
> format
> : it using the XP native tools..
> :
> : My Computer - right click and select 'Manage'.. when the window opens,
> go
> to
> : Storage - Disk Management..
> :
> : Format the Seagate.. when done, close out of the window..
> :
> : Now you need to go to www.acronis.com and download Acronis TrueImage..
> use
> : this program to clone the OS onto the second drive..
> :
> : Follow the instructions implicitly.. at the end of the process, you
> should
> : have an SG that will boot to Windows.. obviously, you have to remove the
> WD,
> : jumper the SG as master, and reboot..
> :
> : OK.. does the SG work ok?.. do all of the programs work as well as they
> did
> : on the WD?..
> :
> : If the answer is YES..
> :
> : You can now jumper the WD as slave, install it back into the case and
> format
> : it as you did the SG..
> :
> : The part where you do have a problem.. you need XP installation media on
> CD
> : to be able to fix the problems with the OS, and installation media for
> any
> : other program on the computer that has a problem..
> :
> : --
> : Mike Hall
> : MVP - Windows Shell/User
> :
> :
> : "The Toyman" <o1nyx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> : news:KFaBf.752216$xm3.532757@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> : > OK guys.
> : > I've got the drives resequenced and running, with the WD as master, SG
> as
> : > slave (both on IDE1), and the optical drive alone on IDE2. Programs
> run
> : > although with an occasional hiccup - e.g. the system spontaneously
> : > rebooted
> : > when I closed a MS Word file - every time. As I look closer, I'm
> finding
> : > identical program files on both the WD & the SG drive - like MS Word.
> : > Seems
> : > as if when the SG was originally installed, a lot of program files
> were
> : > copied to it during the install. Things just don't feel 'stable'. I
> : > suspect there's a major catastrophe (O/S reinstall) in my future.
> : >
> : > Unless you disagree, I think my next step should be to remove as many
> : > unnecessary files and replaceable programs as possible from the older
> WD,
> : > so
> : > there's room to install SP 2, then format and partition the SG so it's
> : > ready
> : > to be cloned from the WD. After the SG is cloned, I'll resequence it
> to
> : > be
> : > the boot master , then if all is well, wipe the WD slave for other
> use.
> : >
> : > If you know, tell me a bit about installing XP, SP 2. Will it prompt
> for
> : > the XP O/S disk, to verify authenticity? And have you heard of any
> : > problems
> : > with installation crashing the system, necessitating an O/S reinstall?
> Or
> : > should I look elsewhere?
> : >
> : > Thanks for the help to-date.
> : >
> : > Toyman
> : > ______________________________
> : >
> : > "The Toyman" <o1nyx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> : > news:oVUAf.725703$_o.33361@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> : > :I need to resequence an existing hard drive setup for a friend. He
> added
> : > a
> : > : 160GB Seagate (SG) to supplement a 13GB Western Digital Caviar (WD).
> The
> : > : Seagate is jumpered as a master - shows up in the BIOS as Primary
> master
> : > : (plugged into IDE1 connector). The Western Dig. is jumpered as a
> single
> : > : drive (only drive in the box), and shows up in the BIOS as a
> Secondary
> : > : master. I think it's showing as Secondary master because it was
> plugged
> : > : into IDE2 connector on a separate cable. I'll change that to have
> both
> : > on
> : > : the same cable going to IDE1. Boot files were copied from the WD to
> the
> : > SG,
> : > : and the system boots from the SG.
> : > :
> : > : All programs are on the WD, but the Registry thinks they're still on
> the
> : > : boot drive (the SG) At least programs won't run from the Start
> button -
> : > : will run OK from the executable file. To try to hopefully 'fix'
> things,
> : > I
> : > : hope to:
> : > :
> : > : 1. unplug the SG (pull the power & data cable) so the PC sees
> the
> WD
> : > as
> : > : the boot drive
> : > : 2. boot the PC
> : > : 3. install XP, SP 2 (so the machine will see all avail. space on
> the
> : > : SG). Have it on CD from MS. SP 1 has not been installed.
> : > : 4. plug in the SG and jumper it as slave, and jumper the WD as
> : > master
> : > : 5. boot the PC
> : > : 6. run Partition Magic (PM) and use the 'copy' function to copy
> : > : (mirror?) all files from the WD to the SG.
> : > : 7. Rejumper the SG as master, and the WD as slave
> : > : 8. Cross my fingers, boot the beast, and hope it works.
> : > :
> : > : Here's a major problem: The XP Pro O/S disk is lost, so if I need
> to
> : > re-do
> : > : the O/S, I'm up the proverbial 'crick' without the proverbial
> paddle.
> : > :
> : > : Here's some questions:
> : > :
> : > : 1. I've heard from others who have tried to install SP 2, that
> it
> : > : could: 1) lock/freeze the O/S, necessitating an O/S reinstall; 2)
> the
> : > O/S
> : > : disk must be inserted to verify it's a legitimate copy before SP 2
> will
> : > : install. Having no O/S disk will put me up that 'crick'. Any
> thoughts
> : > : here?
> : > :
> : > : 2. After I do #'s 1 & 2 above (unplug the SG & boot the PC), is
> : > there
> : > : anything I need to do in the BIOS or Windows - e.g. remove the SG
> from
> : > the
> : > : BIOS, or will that happen automatically? And how about Windows?
> : > :
> : > : 3. I assume plugging in the SG (#4 & 5 above) will simply be a
> case
> : > of
> : > : 'follow the instructions', which I have.
> : > :
> : > : 4. Also, when reinstalling the SG, should I format & partition
> it,
> : > or
> : > : leave it alone, since it's formatted, partitioned and in use now?
> : > :
> : > : 5. I've tried running PM from the boot floppy & CD, but keep
> getting
> : > an
> : > : error message about 'the hard disks are recognized, and the
> appropriate
> : > : software is installed, but hasn't been activated' (not the exact
> words,
> : > but
> : > : close). Then it goes back to a DOS prompt. Since the WD wasn't on
> the
> : > same
> : > : cable as the SG, nor jumpered as a slave, I'm hoping that
> : > : recabling/rejumpering it will 'fix' this problem. If not, then I
> guess
> : > I'll
> : > : be back for more help. Comments here would be appreciated.
> : > :
> : > : Here's another thought re PM: I've never used PM for this purpose
> : > before
> : > : (have Norton Ghost, but have never used it and know nothing about
> it).
> : > I'm
> : > : assuming that the drive with all of the programs (the WD) needs to
> be
> : > the
> : > : boot drive (maybe not?). I wonder if it's possible to copy all
> files
> : > from
> : > : the WD to the SG, with the SG as the boot drive & the WD as the
> slave.
> : > Then
> : > : I could simply try to install SP 2 onto the SG, and if successful,
> use
> : > PM
> : > to
> : > : copy all files from the WD to the SG. That's if I can get past the
> : > boot,
> : > : error message.
> : > :
> : > : This entire operation should be pretty straight-forward, but since I
> : > don't
> : > : have experience, don't know how to respond to the PM error messages,
> and
> : > : especially since I don't have an XP Pro O/S disk, I'm reluctant to
> 'damn
> : > the
> : > : torpedoes, full speed ahead'.
> : > :
> : > : Comments, observations & opinions are welcome, particularly if you
> have
> : > : experience with some or all of this.
> : > :
> : > : I've been to the 'windowsxp.newusers' group - it was suggested I
> come
> : > here.
> : > :
> : > : Toyman
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
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