Re: Resequence Hard Drive Connections

Toyman

You and your friend have gotten into a real mess, eh..

OK.. first, without an XP CD, you are indeed up a creek with any kind of
paddle if anything more goes wrong..

A summary from what I understand..

The WD 13gb drive has all of the programs on it, including the OS.. that's
it..

Attach the WD 13gb drive to the black end of the cable that has blue at the
other end.. referring to the motherboard manual, ensure that the 'blue' end
is plugged into the IDE socket that has the lowest number.. attach the CD
drive to a second IDE cable that will be plugged into the IDE socket with
the highest number.. ensure that both the WD and the CD drive are jumpered
for 'master'..

Now reboot the machine.. does it all work?.. do all of the programs work?..

If the answer is YES..

Shutdown the machine.. attach the Seagate 160 to the grey connector on the
IDE cable that is plugged into the socket with the lowest number (the cable
with the blue end)..

Restart the machine.. does it all work?.. do all of the programs work?..

If the answer is YES..

Take the machine to somebody who knows how to clone an OS from one drive to
another.. by your own admission, you have little to no idea how to work
programs of that genre, and without an XP CD, you are on the road to losing
everything..

If the answer to any of the above is NO..

Take the machine to somebody who knows how to clone an OS from one drive to
another.. by your own admission, you have little to no idea how to work
programs of that genre, and without an XP CD, you are on the road to losing
everything..

I am not being mean here.. you appear to be way out of your depth, and
continued attempts by you will 'end in tears'

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"The Toyman" <o1nyx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:oVUAf.725703$_o.33361@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>I need to resequence an existing hard drive setup for a friend. He added a
> 160GB Seagate (SG) to supplement a 13GB Western Digital Caviar (WD). The
> Seagate is jumpered as a master - shows up in the BIOS as Primary master
> (plugged into IDE1 connector). The Western Dig. is jumpered as a single
> drive (only drive in the box), and shows up in the BIOS as a Secondary
> master. I think it's showing as Secondary master because it was plugged
> into IDE2 connector on a separate cable. I'll change that to have both on
> the same cable going to IDE1. Boot files were copied from the WD to the
> SG,
> and the system boots from the SG.
>
> All programs are on the WD, but the Registry thinks they're still on the
> boot drive (the SG) At least programs won't run from the Start button -
> will run OK from the executable file. To try to hopefully 'fix' things, I
> hope to:
>
> 1. unplug the SG (pull the power & data cable) so the PC sees the WD
> as
> the boot drive
> 2. boot the PC
> 3. install XP, SP 2 (so the machine will see all avail. space on the
> SG). Have it on CD from MS. SP 1 has not been installed.
> 4. plug in the SG and jumper it as slave, and jumper the WD as master
> 5. boot the PC
> 6. run Partition Magic (PM) and use the 'copy' function to copy
> (mirror?) all files from the WD to the SG.
> 7. Rejumper the SG as master, and the WD as slave
> 8. Cross my fingers, boot the beast, and hope it works.
>
> Here's a major problem: The XP Pro O/S disk is lost, so if I need to
> re-do
> the O/S, I'm up the proverbial 'crick' without the proverbial paddle.
>
> Here's some questions:
>
> 1. I've heard from others who have tried to install SP 2, that it
> could: 1) lock/freeze the O/S, necessitating an O/S reinstall; 2) the O/S
> disk must be inserted to verify it's a legitimate copy before SP 2 will
> install. Having no O/S disk will put me up that 'crick'. Any thoughts
> here?
>
> 2. After I do #'s 1 & 2 above (unplug the SG & boot the PC), is there
> anything I need to do in the BIOS or Windows - e.g. remove the SG from the
> BIOS, or will that happen automatically? And how about Windows?
>
> 3. I assume plugging in the SG (#4 & 5 above) will simply be a case of
> 'follow the instructions', which I have.
>
> 4. Also, when reinstalling the SG, should I format & partition it, or
> leave it alone, since it's formatted, partitioned and in use now?
>
> 5. I've tried running PM from the boot floppy & CD, but keep getting
> an
> error message about 'the hard disks are recognized, and the appropriate
> software is installed, but hasn't been activated' (not the exact words,
> but
> close). Then it goes back to a DOS prompt. Since the WD wasn't on the
> same
> cable as the SG, nor jumpered as a slave, I'm hoping that
> recabling/rejumpering it will 'fix' this problem. If not, then I guess
> I'll
> be back for more help. Comments here would be appreciated.
>
> Here's another thought re PM: I've never used PM for this purpose before
> (have Norton Ghost, but have never used it and know nothing about it).
> I'm
> assuming that the drive with all of the programs (the WD) needs to be the
> boot drive (maybe not?). I wonder if it's possible to copy all files from
> the WD to the SG, with the SG as the boot drive & the WD as the slave.
> Then
> I could simply try to install SP 2 onto the SG, and if successful, use PM
> to
> copy all files from the WD to the SG. That's if I can get past the boot,
> error message.
>
> This entire operation should be pretty straight-forward, but since I don't
> have experience, don't know how to respond to the PM error messages, and
> especially since I don't have an XP Pro O/S disk, I'm reluctant to 'damn
> the
> torpedoes, full speed ahead'.
>
> Comments, observations & opinions are welcome, particularly if you have
> experience with some or all of this.
>
> I've been to the 'windowsxp.newusers' group - it was suggested I come
> here.
>
> Toyman
>
>


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