Re: Harddrive Delima

Ron:
I would guess it's probably too late to do so, but is there any way you
could cancel that $69.95 order for the "BIOS upgrade"? In all candor, I
really think your best bet at this point is to bring your computer in to a
local computer repair shop. Assuming there are no defective hardware
implications, I'm reasonably certain that they could return your computer to
a functional state at a reasonable cost. At least they could give you an
estimate of charges and you could then make a decision as to whether you
want to go that route.
Anna

"Ron" <ronjon2@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Anna wrote:
>> "Ron" <ronjon2@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23USLPyi5FHA.1184@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>>>>>>"Ron" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rather than write a page of action taken, I will list:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Have a 20 GB HD (Maxtor 6E040L0).installed.
>>>>>>>>Bought a new 160 GB Seagate Hurricane
>>>>>>>>Installed per Segate Manual.
>>>>>>>>BIOS wouldn't recognize any drives.
>>>>>>>>Reconfigured for many hrs.
>>>>>>>>Called Segate.
>>>>>>>>Said disconnect CD & DVD drive ribbon cable.
>>>>>>>>They said plug the Segate drive into the MB where the CD/DVD was.
>>>>>>>>Computer recognizes everything well.
>>>>>>>>Segate said there is a conflict somewhere with other hardware.
>>>>>>>>Said buy an ATA card and plug into a PCI slot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Old 20GB drive still set as master.
>>>>>>>>Segate has no jumpers so it is a slave.
>>>>>>>>ATA card had two pins with a jumper on each.
>>>>>>>>Directions only said "make sure you have jumpers set properly"?????
>>>>>>>>Left them on.
>>>>>>>>BIOS/CMOS still doesn't recognize new Seagate.
>>>>>>>>Device Mgr says it's connected and working properly.
>>>>>>>>Installed Win XP.
>>>>>>>>Moved files to the new drive.
>>>>>>>>Segate is an Ultra 100 ATA Drive.
>>>>>>>>Hardware Mgr lists it as a SCSI Drive??
>>>>>>>>I want to make the Segate the bootable drive and the 20 GB as slave.
>>>>>>>>Everything seems to work well even though BIOS doesn't recognize it.
>>>>>>>>No hardware conflicts reported.
>>>>>>>>Win XP on 20 GB drive is really slow in booting now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Since each drive is on it's own ribbon cable connected to the MB,
>>>>>>>>what do I have to do to make the Segate the bootable drive and the
>>>>>>>>20 GB as slave? Remember, BIOS doesn't even recognize it's there.
>>>>>>>>Should I anticipate problems? All suggestions will be appreciated -
>>>>>>>>This is my first HD installation. I won't be able to read your
>>>>>>>>answers until tomorrow, Thursday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ron later wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks to you and Bob for your help. The computer is a 2.6 GHz, 1 GB
>>>>>>memory, about 2yrs old. I am running Windows XP Home. It's an ATA 100
>>>>>>, homebuilt. I guess I'll have to look into this BIOS upgrade thing
>>>>>>though I thought mine was new enough. The instructions said to
>>>>>>configure the Segate as a slave (no jumpers)until files could be
>>>>>>transferred to new drive. Then to reconfigure as a master.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks to all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>(And still later...)
>>>>Wish I had gotten your (Bob's) msg earlier, I just ordered a new BIOS
>>>>($69.95).
>>>>I am using the proper cabling but the old 20 GB drive is master and is
>>>>bootable; if I jumper the Segate as master then I would have two
>>>>masters. Also, the Segate isn't recognized by the BIOS so I can't make
>>>>it bootable. The master is at the end and middle is slave as you say but
>>>>BIOS won't recognize it. Plugged directly into the MB with it's own
>>>>cable won't recognize it either; I don't know how Segate got me to test
>>>>it to ensure it is recognized.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Anna wrote:
>>>
>>>>1. We're going to assume your Seagate HD is non-defective. BTW, you said
>>>>it's a Seagate "Hurricane". I never heard of a Seagate model by this
>>>>name. We're assuming it's a PATA drive.
>>
>>
>> Ron responds...
>>
>>>The Segate works. When I install only the Segate it boots and works fine
>>>but then the Maxtor isn't recgonized (Segate is jumpered master and old
>>>Maxtor is slave). I am unfamiliar with the PATA term.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anna wrote:
>>
>>>>You did partition & format that drive before installing it, yes? You do
>>>>understand that a new drive must be partitioned/formatted before the
>>>>system will recognize it, right? Tell us precisely how you partitioned &
>>>>formatted that drive, if indeed you did so. Then we can go on from
>>>>there, OK?
>>
>>
>> Ron responds...
>>
>>>I installed the Segate only, inserted the Win XP CDROM, and it led me
>>>through the process and formated it. I chose not to partition it.
>>
>>
>> Anna wrote:
>>
>>>>3. You mentioned something about an "ATA card". What's that all about?
>>>>You've connected the Seagate to a controller card?
>>
>>
>> Ron responds...
>>
>>>Segate told me there is something in my computer that is incompatible
>>>with the drive (but when is's installed alone it works fine). They said
>>>my only hope was to add an ATA controller card in a PCI slot and run the
>>>Segate through there. Bought and installed the card but no luck. There
>>>were no instructions for the two jumpers on the ATA card. However, it
>>>doesn't matter nothing works from the ATA card.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anna wrote:
>>
>>>>4.. If & when you respond, also indicate the make & model of your
>>>>motherboard and its age if you know it. You purchased a BIOS upgrade for
>>>>$69.95? From whom?
>>
>>
>> Ron responds...
>>
>>>I see no visible name on the board, only that the chipset is VIA. Approx
>>>two years old, 2.6 GHz.
>>
>>
>> Ron:
>> You indicated that you installed XP (presumably) on the new Seagate
>> drive. Is that right? Then it was a successful install? So what was the
>> problem? After the install the drive didn't boot? How were you able to
>> install XP if the BIOS didn't recognize the drive? And what do you mean
>> when you say you "Moved files to the new drive". How did you do this?
>>
>> You say the "Hardware Mgr" shows the Seagate drive as a SCSI device. What
>> "Hardware Mgr" are you talking about?
>>
>> Assuming you've correctly installed XP to your new drive and you've
>> connected/configured it as Primary Master and you're sure your IDE cable
>> is secure on both ends and you've disconnected your 20 GB drive -- what
>> happens when you try to boot up with the new drive?
>>
>> And I'm still curious about that $69.95 BIOS upgrade...
>> Anna
> This is why I'm going to all this trouble. I've tried to answer twice but
> the computer locks up totally. Microsoft can't fix it and a week on the
> newsgroups couldn't help. Anyway, I unhooked the old Maxtor, CD, DVD and
> made the Segate Master. (BIOS found it). Booted from the XP CD, clean
> install of Windows. Installed the Maxtor again along with the Segate
> (BIOS won't recognize the Segate but it still appears everywhere else on
> the computer) Went into Windows Explorer and did a Drag & Drop of My
> Documents folder to the Segate (huge file) and everything went fine.
>
> SCSI is OK. Reread the instructions for the Segate and it said that is the
> way it would be listed.
>
> With both drives installed:
>
> Old 20GB drive still set as master.
> Segate has no jumpers so it is a slave (per Segate Instructions).
> ATA card had two pins with a jumper on each.(Segate said I had to buy an
> ATA card to avoid the conflict).
> Directions only said "make sure you have jumpers set properly"?????
> Left them on.
> BIOS/CMOS still doesn't recognize new Seagate.
> Device Mgr says it's connected and working properly.
> Installed Win XP.
> Moved files to the new drive.
> Segate is an Ultra 100 ATA Drive.
> I want to make the Segate the bootable drive and the 20 GB as slave.
> Everything seems to work well even though BIOS doesn't recognize it.
> No hardware conflicts reported.
> Win XP on 20 GB drive is really slow in booting now.
>
>
> Went to Phoenix-Award BIOS website to check for updates. When you click
> download, they send you to a page http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/
> Thats where I got the upgrade.


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