Re: Lightning - funny how we're not seeing him any more



Somehow Leythos again just knows that "a UPS not providing
any protection is complete BS." His proof? Two letters:
BS. He also lied about having an EE degree in the discussion
entitled "Lightning and computer?" that started 20 April
2005. He claimed an EE degree but did not even know the
difference between resistance and impedance - a concept taught
to 1st year EE students. One glaring word: credibility.

So we asked Leythos how he knows that UPS provided such
protection. Where is the numerical spec from that APC UPS that
even claims protection? After maybe 10 requests; he provided
zero numbers. Somehow he just knows - just like his EE
degree.

That UPS provides protection from blackouts and brownouts -
as it numerical specs claim. But Leythos knows better. He
plugs equipment all over the country. Therefore he knows that
UPSes provide that hardware protection; and need not know
why. His proof? He posts words such as BS and ranting.
Insults are sufficient to prove he superiority. Numbers are
for others who waste time learning technology before
recommending solutions.

No earth ground (such as with that plug-in UPS) means no
effective protection. Even the UPS manufacturer does not
claim to provide that protection. A fact that Leythos
outrightly denies? A protector is only as effective as its
earth ground. His reply. More insults - and pretend no one
asked for those numbers. He has a mythical EE degree.

He once suffered damage. Therefore he is an expert. It's
called "junk science". Junk scientist will never provide
numbers. Some may even claim to have an EE degree. Why do we
know? He replies with personal insults - and no numbers. He
has no technical knowledge. He even tried to claim the UPS
protected equipment on his phone line. Somehow he just knows
and we have no right to understand why.

Leythos wrote:
> I am NOT trying to say I have more technical information on the topic
> that he does, nor am I trying to say that he's entirely wrong. As
> I tried to make clear, his ranting about a UPS not providing any
> protection is complete BS. Anyone, and there should be quite a few,
> that has both a UPS and another device plugged into the same
> electrical outlet, that can see (first hand, not through the story
> mill) where the non-protected device was damaged and the protected
> devices were not damaged, can tell you he's wrong.
>
> We install computer systems ALL over the country in all sorts of
> locations. I've never had a device on a UPS damaged, not once, and
> that would be thousands of devices, yet, at the same time, I've
> seen many non-protected devices damaged in those same installations.
>
> That chap started the same rant in another group I read, same story
> about how UPS's don't do anyone any good - I suspect he is just a
> troll or someone that has no real-world experience under his belt.
.



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