Re: Any Motherboard recommendation without integrated sound, video, mo
From: Ted (2000_at_xxxmsn.com)
Date: 02/26/05
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:30:46 -0800
>Fortunately, PC are built like cars,
Bad comparison.
Cars don't use drivers, nor they take upgrades.
Most car parts fully available for 5 years.
Partially available up to 10 years and 20 years.
Intel motherboards integrated hardware good for the current
operating system only.
The year 2000 and large size hard drives was a turn around for
motherboards and operating systems, doesn't mean these
companies can keep the habit for making products good
for the current operating system, without offering newer
drivers for newer OS.
"BAR" <BAR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> You are fully entitled to an opinion, but what's the point.
>
> Some people find that the 'packaged' motherboard suits a budget; generally
> theirs, are you suggesting PCs should be built for these folk?
>
> Fortunately, PC are built like cars, some come packaged fully of goodies
> at
> a budget price - like a Hyundai/Ford/GM: others have fewer features and
> better engineering and build quality - extras can be purachsed from the
> dealer to be included in the build process or you can 'customise' the car
> later - like BMW/Mercedes/Audi.
>
> All of these cars sell well and most of these companies make a profit for
> their shareholders. That's commerce. Also you can throw away a brand new
> Hyundai every 6 months and still not loose out compared with the
> depreciation
> on an Audi over 2 years!
>
> Personally for a PC I'd buy a Mobo without integrated LAN, Sound and
> Video:
> because one can get superior plug in components and if the individual
> component fails it can be replaced without throwing away a whole Mobo.
>
> The comeback on this is that a plug in AGP card may cost more than a Mobo
> with all these fully 'integrated' components.
>
> So 'you pays your money and puts up with the consequences'.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ted" wrote:
>
>> Any Motherboard recommendation without integrated sound, video, modem,
>> and
>> Ethernet card ?
>> I find buying a motherboard with above integrated hardware is a waist.
>> I rather have my own preferred video, sound, modem and Ethernet card for
>> one.
>> Plus motherboard makers don't update their drivers if you upgrade
>> the operating system.
>> For example, I upgraded a computer with Intel motherboard from
>> W2K to Win XP. Only the video card and modem worked with Intel
>> the drivers.
>> Checked their website for XP drivers:
>> 1) The drivers were dated 2002.
>> They all failed to install in XP giving error messages.
>> 2) Intel never bothered to update the drivers, or the hardware
>> was not compatible with XP.
>> I didn't have a problem finding XP drivers for my hardware that
>> I bought in the year 1999 in another computer.
>>
>> All I see these days is motherboards with integrated hardware, unless
>> you want to but server level motherboards.
>> I know you can disable integrated hardware in CMOS, but still think
>> its a waist.
>> A good way to lure buyers in cheaper computers, while eventually
>> they are going to pay the full price.
>>
>>
>>
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