Re: New Intel 64 bit processors

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From: Chris Catt (cuke(nospam)_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 02/26/05 

Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:56:26 -0000

Hi, I don't think that the Athlon XP's actually run any hotter. What you
might find is that the method of reading the CPU temperature changed from
the external diode to the internal probe, thus giving the impression that it
was running hot...
ChrisC
"AD" <graphi47uk@y.a.h.o.o.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1120hbcakmoog4a@corp.supernews.com...
> Galen wrote:
>
>>
>> I put Windows ME on an AMD64 and it went like a screaming demon. It was
>> blazing fast for the short time that it was on there. I couldn't get a
>
> I bet it was, if ME was a 64 bit Os, it would be even faster.
>
>
>> single modem to work with it (even though the AMD has good legacy
>> support, I
>> blame me for it and not taking the time to research it fully or having
>> the
>
> That is strange, I know I have not got a 64bit chip, but my modem works
> ok, not that I use it very often, it is only for a back up dial up or for
> fax.
>
>
>> desire to look into it further, it was mostly for entertainment anyhow.)
>> and
>> didn't take the time to do the updates to slow the booting down or the
>> like.
>> I only booted it a couple of times to play with it. I did NOT use the
>> SATA
>> drives with it, I used ATA 133's (I know, I know, but to make it worse
>> I'm a
>> Maxtor fan... Give them some space in your case and they'll outlast a
>> Seagate in my experiences. LOL Please, no flames... I should know better
>> but
>
> I got two SATA Maxtors in my computer, great drives, no problems at all, I
> have built 5 computers for different people in the last 5 weeks and I put
> Maxtor in them all. I like Maxtor. I did not used to as they was noisy and
> slow, but they have improved.
>
>
>> I've honestly had no issues. Then again I also like Windows ME, it's my
>> second favorite OS after XP Pro.) That board too was a GigaByte. I've
>> pretty
>
> TBH, I prefer win98 to ME, but Me was at hand and it makes using USB
> hardware easier.
>
>
>> much fallen in love with the GigaByte boards and AMD chip combinations. I
>
> I never had a Gigabyte board. TBH, I have not really stuck with one
> manufacture.
> PC-Chips was my first board with a Cyrix 166 chip, then I had a lucky
> star, which had a 233 AMD, then a 266 AMD. after that I updated to a Soyo
> and a AMD k6-3 400Mhhz, then a Epox with a AMD Athlon 1000Mhz, leading up
> to this machine which has a Abit board in with a 2500 AMD XP chip.
> I hated the Epox board, the worse mother board of the lot, it is now
> hanging on my computer room wall.
> If I update to another P.C, then I think I will go with Abit again, this
> board have been great, very stable. considering it is the version one and
> I was told it had lots of problems.
>
>> don't overclock too often these days, there's no point in it for me.
>> (Instead I go for case mods and pretty lights and things like Enermax
>> system
>> monitors which are much cooler than overclocking in my opinion.)
>
> I stopped over clocking now, the system is stable as it is. I got some
> lights inside the box and a nice LED fan, but i want to get a decent case,
> instead of the cheap 14UKpound thing I got.
> Not worried about lights or windows, I just want something that will last
> longer.
>
>
>
>> I really worry about heat. My AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (the one in question
>> and
>> the one I've been on about) is currently kicking at about 114 degrees
>> Fahrenheit or a bit above 45.5 Celcius. It's a bit higher than I'd like
>> but
>> it seems like it's stable enough. I've never had a BSOD with it due to
>> something hardware related. I've had only one BSOD that I recall and that
>> was after I'd updated it, installing the latest nVidia drivers made it
>> never
>> go away. I've never had it stop due to heat so I guess it's okay. I've
>> looked at some of the cooling blocks available and had thought about
>> going
>> with a radiator type setup but it's seemingly stable as it is. Besides,
>> there's really not that much more room in the case...
>
> I was thinking of water cooling once, but it is so expensive and I I do
> not really think they are as good as people says. The other thing is water
> and electric is not good, if a pip burst, you have had it. Someone down
> the road from me got water cooling and it is still noisy due to the pump
> and fan.
>
>
>>
>> I live in a very cold area of the world. I guess that doesn't have much
>> to
>> do with it. My home is heated to the comfort zone and that's about it. I
>
> Yes, that is another problem.
>
>
>> don't even have the "aggressive" option enabled in my CMOS. I use slim
>> cables instead of ribbons, I keep them out of the way, there are three
>> fans
>
> Same here, I use round cables, but they still seem to get in the way.
>
>
>> in this particular case, and there's enough air space. The lights are
>> cathode so surely not putting out that much heat. I think, perhaps, that
>> a
>> lot of the heat is coming off of the power supply (Enermax 550 Watt
>> supply)
>> and radiating through the case, to be honest though I don't really have
>> any
>> idea. I've heard (but don't own any new Intel chips so I can't compare
>> personally) that AMD runs much hotter than Intel anyhow. So long as it
>> works
>> I don't mind really.
>
> I think AMD do run hotter or they did, not sure about now mind you. Have
> you got any case fans? I got two at the back of the case, pulling air out
> of the case. My way of thinking is that if you pull the hot air out of the
> back of the case, then cool; air must come in from the front. I could be
> wrong, but it seems to make sense to me.
> When I get my new case, I am going to buy the quietest fans I can get and
> may change my heat sink and fan, but then that is not where the noise
> comes from.
>
>
>> I must wonder about any proof of such things. Basically I'm now an AMD
>> man
>> because right now AMD has my fancy. Should Intel (or another company)
>> take
>> the lead and provide solid performance numbers at a decent price I'm
>> willing
>> to convert. I'm not brand specific, as I mentioned, I'm simply
>> performance
>
> I will never buy an Intel, I do not like the company and they way they
> work. So if they come out with the vest CPU ever, I would still stay with
> AMD. Mind you I have got one computer here with an Intel chip in, an Acer
> with a 233 in. I did not buy it, I was given it.
> I also got 2 old 233 AMD based machines, I think it is time to get rid of
> these, give them away to a charity or something.
>
>
>
>
>> oriented. Feel free to flame about liking Maxtor too ;) I don't mind and
>> I
>> probably deserve it. LOL Everyone I know who is into computers hates
>> Maxtor
>> and Windows ME. They're two of my favorite things. If it wasn't for XP
>> I'd
>
> Nothing wrong with Maxtors, I think they work very well.
> I had a 20GB seagate and it was returned to seagate 8 times in 3 years,
> the strange thing was that the drives they sent me was never the same one
> and they just failed. It is now in a friends computer and it been working
> in her machine now for 2 years, so maybe it was my Epox board that was
> mucking it up. I still got 3 seagates, a 80gig in this machine which is
> used for storage, a 120Gig in a USB caddy and a 6 Gig in my 400MHz
> machine. But I think the 6gig is failing, so I may buy another 120Gig
> drive for this computer and stick the 80 gig in the 400Mhz.
>
>> still be using ME as my basic OS and Maxtor drives hold up well for me
>> while
>> I've had more than one Seagate kick the bucket without warning. So much
>> for
>> S.M.A.R.T. doing any good :/
>
> I am not found of ME, seems to have more problems than 98, I must admit I
> do like Windows XP, it is just the holes that get on my nerves. XP is
> normally very stable as long as I keep SP2 off it. I even made a version
> that was slipstreamed with SP2, thinking that may work better, but no.
> I never have smart on, on my Nephews old computer, it seemed to slow the
> machine down, so I never used it again.
>

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